KDSS solenoid
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homeyclaus
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Yeah, I agree, that sounds like they're too lazy to fix the wiring. And you traction control light should not be on.
Take it to an independent shop that's not staffed by idiots, if you know of one.
And in terms of component lifespan, it's time, not mileage, for this sort of stuff. Offroading does nothing to the KDSS pump and solenoid.
Take it to an independent shop that's not staffed by idiots, if you know of one.
And in terms of component lifespan, it's time, not mileage, for this sort of stuff. Offroading does nothing to the KDSS pump and solenoid.
I believe it is lazy too!! How could that pump have failed already? I have not looked at it yet myself, but I'm thinking the connections Should be replaced first. I know it is not km's driven, just wondering if anybody has had same issue? They also said that under the skid plate of the solenoid was full of mud, that resulted in the corroded lines. This is a 3k fix, 2k just for the kdss solenoid!! :flame:
homeyclaus
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Mud causes corrosion? I think whoever told you that has inhaled too many gases from the tar sands, no offense.
At the factory, Toyota uses industry standard sealed clip connectors with a dielectric protective grease. A lot would have to go wrong before anything could corrode in there.
Look, if you're paying for it anyways, and you're not mechanically incompetent yourself (and judging by location, have an indoor place to work), unbolt the skid plate covering the KDSS pump, and have a look for yourself. The connector is right there. Have a camera, for all you know whoever touched it got ham-fisted with it, messed it up, and now wants you to pay for their screwup. Pull the connector (mind the clip on the side that holds it on), see that the connector seal is in place, and see what the connections look like.
And drive to an auto parts retailer, ask to borrow their code reader, and get the codes, we can look that up in the service manual for you.
BlackWorksInc
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He might not be able to get those codes from a generic scantool. They're not technically OBDII codes and are stored in the ABS/Trac/VSC module. I haven't checked the parts stores, but I don't know how capable their generic toys are. Either way, you should be able to get a copy of the codes pulled from the vehicle along with the "health report" from the TIS Scantool. The dealership should be printing these out and providing the customers with a copy along with the repair order when a vehicle is brought in for a MIL.
homeyclaus
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Agreed, but some of the rental Actrons could pull additional data off the CAN bus. As far as what the dealership should and should not be doing, their inability to do either has already been established. Especially now that the service rep at the front desk smells a $2000 minimum work order.
I have not seen the later model third party high end scan tools (whatever Snap-on buys and re-brands) and what those things can do, but it's worth a shot. Then there is always ebay and the pirate techstream
BlackWorksInc
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Agreed, but some of the rental Actrons could pull additional data off the CAN bus. As far as what the dealership should and should not be doing, their inability to do either has already been established. Especially now that the service rep at the front desk smells a $2000 minimum work order.
I have not seen the later model third party high end scan tools (whatever Snap-on buys and re-brands) and what those things can do, but it's worth a shot. Then there is always ebay and the pirate techstream
Most of the aftermarket scanners that have "good" Asian ABS/SRS support are able to read the codes from ABS/VSC modules and SRS modules. They tend to have these as "add-on" software or cards though rather than built into the unit from my experience. Our OTC Genysis with the Asian ABS/SRS software pack does well with Toyota.
I agree that the service rep is more interested in the 2k repair, I would see if it could be covered under the warranty, otherwise I would make it clear to them that you're taking your business elsewhere.
I have been working here lately, so no time to have a look at this yet. I find it odd that the traction light came up first, and has been on for approx. 4mos. I do like it because you still have ABS, but you don't have traction control. Yes i can't use my crawl control, but when you want wheel speed you have it!! Therefore it wasn't a big concern to fix it, mind you I did try to swap out the sensor lines up front that did not help. Now the KDSS light popped up and decided to check it out. I do deal with this dealer a lot, so I hope I can trust them to know what the hell they are doing. Might just try another shop around here when i can find the time.
Thanks for the input guys!
Thanks for the input guys!
