CutthroatSlam
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So I checked and Lithia Toyota in Missoula had this ORP in Lunarock in transit and it now has my wife’s name on it. Should be here in 4 to 6 weeks. It has Softex seats, but we can live with that.
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So I checked and Lithia Toyota in Missoula had this ORP in Lunarock in transit and it now has my wife’s name on it. Should be here in 4 to 6 weeks. It has Softex seats, but we can live with that.
thatoneguy
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Nice! Lunar was my #2 color choice, but my dealer did end up getting me my Nautical Blue in a timely manner. I think Lunar looks great on these things. Enjoy it once it gets here!
Maybe marvel at all the little things they've packed into it these days. Windshield wiper deicers, heated steering wheel, auto dimming mirror, blind spot monitor, cross-traffic alert (which saved me from a jackass 30mph parking lot driver the first week...), toyota safety sense.... they've just about figured out how to include everything except LED interior lights by now.
CutthroatSlam
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If it was going to be my car, it would be blue. I drive old cars by choice.
My son just gave me the title on his 1994 K2500 Suburban 4WD with 6.5 diesel….because I had done all the work on it. After I fix it up, it will move to our ranch in Montana.
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Horsethief
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Turbos also make more power out of a smaller displacement, which is a good thing.
Turbos are not new, they're nothing to be afraid of. I have a 16 year old Volvo with 232k and counting on the original turbo, no issues ever. It's tuned for low end torque, it's a great driving experience.
I actually look forward to a torquey turbo 4 in the 4R, it will be a much needed improvement over the 4.0.
GMs 2.7L turbo 4 makes up to 430ft lbs of tq, that's fantastic!
Just an update. I've been watching incoming units to my Dealership and found the exact combo of model (SR5 4x2), color (white/graphite) and factory options (none) that I wanted. This was last Saturday. I paid the deposit over the phone and they were able to remove/add the port installed options I wanted on Monday. Due in port tomorrow. While I *might* have been able to save some money on a 2024 (if purchase premiums fall faster than factory prices rise), I just wanted to seal the deal. I'm really looking forward to the safety sensors. I'm getting older every day...... This could easily be my last vehicle purchase ever.
thatoneguy
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It sounds like you're talking an absolute base model. A regular SR5, NOT an SR5 Premium.
Does it have the $1600 "Premium Audio" package? I have not seen one single 2023 SR5/TRD Offroad window sticker that didn't have that checked. Do you have a window sticker or know the MSRP by chance?
thatoneguy
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I trust that Toyota isn't killing their golden geese of 4Runner and Tacoma by going turbo 2.4L four-cylinder, and I'll see if that assumption gets proven otherwise. They say they tested it thoroughly and know the reliability their customers expect. The trust is there for now.
If it turns out to be good on reliability, one day years into the future, I'll move on to the future 6th gen 4Runner with that 2.4L. The 2.4L in the new Tacoma makes like 17% more torque than the big 4.0L, and it makes it thousands of RPMs earlier.
For how big "4.0 liters" sounds, this thing can't go up a steep highway grade at 65mph without asking for north of 3500rpm.... when done properly, there is a replacement for displacement.
Exactly, all that really matters is power to weight ratio ultimately and turbo 4 cylinders often win here due to their inherently lighter weight. 270hp and 278 lb/ft torque is not a whole hell of a lot for a vehicle pushing 5000 pounds even if the engine is "big" by modern standards.
The 1GR-FE in the 4Runner effectively dates to 2002. This engine is ancient history and doesn't benefit from tons of engineering work that has been done to increase efficiency and output the last 15 years.
It is the absolute base model. That's all I want. I've had several and haven't missed any other available options.
It does not have the premium audio. The pattern in my area is that the few 4x2 Base SR5s do not include it but all other models do. I have zero interest in paying that $1600. I believe that all it adds is Navigation. I've had navigation on two 4Runners and rarely used it. The new base radio has "AppleCarplay" which I'm hoping will let me display the Google maps on my phone on the display. I'll find out soon enough.
The MSRP is $41,602. There are no factory options. The PIOs are:
EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE KIT (TMS) $75
CARGO COVER (TMS) $179
ALL-WEATHER FLOOR LINERS/CARGO TRAY (TMS) $309
CARGO NET (TMS) $49
I agree. If it were GM, I wouldn't think of buying anything with a Turbo. Toyota, I probably would, but with a bit of nervousness. We're retired, and really don't drive that much. Most is just around town and some highway driving, but nothing that begs for any more power (or fuel efficiency) than the current 4.0L. I believe that heat is a Turbo's biggest enemy, and we live in the desert. As I mentioned above, the 2023 4Runner I'm buying may very well be our last vehicle purchase of any kind. It has the safety sensors I need and we'll likely put less than 5000 miles a year on it. Probably more like 3000 miles. At the end of the day, I just really like the 5th gens and locking a new one in versus waiting for what's behind door number two works great for me. I appreciate all the inputs.
thatoneguy
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Awesome that you found one without Premium Audio. I hate Premium Audio, it is not worth anywhere near the $1600 charged. In my area, I could not get one without it, no matter how hard I tried. So I relented and went up to the Offroad Premium trim to at least get better value out of the whole package.
Just picked up a 2023 only because of what they are doing with the new Tacoma release. I had an 05 got and keeping the 08 and have a new one with the same powertrain plus air injection now.
I wouldn't wait long they just may be ready to release the 6th and the 5th will bring a premium until they are gone.
The time is now to pull the trigger. I drove a total 1032 miles to get the color and trim I was looking for.
I wouldn't wait long they just may be ready to release the 6th and the 5th will bring a premium until they are gone.
The time is now to pull the trigger. I drove a total 1032 miles to get the color and trim I was looking for.
That's kind of where I'm at brother(or sister). We have no idea what may (or may not) happen for the final model year. Sometimes manufacturers build out early and sometimes late. Sometimes the trim and option choices are restrained (i.e. forcing more options like premium audio onto every unit just to reduce variations and increase profits). As I mentioned, I strongly prefer 4x2, simply because a gravel parking lot is as close to off road as I ever get. It would not be shocker if the end of the 4x2s is already upon us. I saw what I wanted and grabbed it.
According to mother Toyota site under search inventory there are 16 4x2 runners available within 500 miles of Phoenix.
The site is fairly accurate. That is where I found mine. Within an hour of dropping the deposit it was removed from the sight. So if you see something you should be able to get it.
There are options to see pending and in-transit options.
The site is fairly accurate. That is where I found mine. Within an hour of dropping the deposit it was removed from the sight. So if you see something you should be able to get it.
There are options to see pending and in-transit options.
Thanks, but I already bought one (as reported previously in this thread). I'm good.
