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Just installed this mount, with a 5’ fire stick. What is your swr? I can’t get mine below 3.5
 
Just installed this mount, with a 5’ fire stick. What is your swr? I can’t get mine below 3.5

This thread has been dead for awhile. I'm tracking your issue from the other fotum and i am no way an Elmer. Have you check your grounds with a meter? Could also be a bad antenna. Not much help, but hope you keep us posted for those that look at the mount in the future.
 
Been thinking about mounting my Wilson 1/2 wave the way you did yours. It's just so long though. I'd like to have a rear spare tire rack over the hatch (behind) and mount it there maybe. Yours looks good though
 
Rago hatch-mouth mount + 11ft HF antenna = disappointment

Rago mount. 4' Firefly.

I tried similar - a Rago rear-hatch-mouth mount, but my antenna is a Ham HF (Newtronics / Hustler) with about 11 feet of length and a large-ish coil in the middle.

I was unhappy :-(
Sure, RF performance was OK - while stationary, I made some good contacts from BC to Colorado and California. SWR was always fine, with copper-braid to the 4Runner body-metal.

But the mount and everything was 'way too soft :-( Even parked, I could "twang" the whole thing about 30 degrees, and if moving, I swear the Rago + plastic had the thing swinging back on a 45-degree angle :-( I think I must have about 100 pounds of wind-drag, and 11 feet is a really long lever. I doubt even the earlier drill-sheet-metal-and-use-a-ballmount would work.

<sigh>
I am thinking a 2" box of 1/4 steel inserted into a hitch-receiver is just about right for me.
 
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Since I got a PM from Cutty about my setup, I wanted to update the thread.

I still think the NMO trunk lip on the hood is a great option (edit: the right mount is a great option). I continue to use it with my HAM radio, with a 1/4 wave Opek antenna.

It's nice to see a fellow ham that doesn't immediately shit all over any type of mount that is not in the dead centre, drilled through the roof with a 5 foot antenna sticking out.

on a lot of ham and general radio forums you get many old crusty hams that basically post in every thread the above way to mount an antenna is the only acceptable way

FWIW a mobile ham set up a compromise in general, you have a moving vehicle with electric components and varying terrain - you won't get perfection. that doesn't mean you certainly can't try but you can get a very nice set up with a mag mount or a lip mount. ever want to use your roof or park in a garage, that's another compromise...

If you are using VHF / UHF you can generally get away with less surface bonding or ground plane which is important on HF and below (longer wavelength means a larger ground plane is needed)

I have a comet lip mount on the corner of my hood for a dual band VHF and UHF. technology has progressed in the last 50 years. many manufacturers like comet tune their antennas to work well on lip mounts because they know not everyone is going to drill a hole in their roof. my SWR at 50 watts on VHF peaks at 1.8 at the very end of the 2m band and is around 1.5 for most of the band +/- .1. on 70cm my SWR peaks just under 1.3 with a low of under 1.1. for a dual band mobile set up those are very respectable readings given I'm using one antenna. you will not damage your radio at swr above 1.5... you will not damage it at 2.0. a decent radio can handle 2.0 or even 2.5 generally trouble free. 3+ is potential for damage. obviously 1.5 is the goal but sometimes in certain set ups (like marine/boats) it's just not possible

if you are worried about rust with a lip mount here is how I have made mine rust free in canada - where we use road salt almost 5 months of the year

- you want to mount your lip mount where the set screws will need to go through the epoxy bead/sealant that goes around the edge of the door,hood,hatch etc. many people sand this down to bare metal but I do not feel that is necessary
- the set screws will bore through the epoxy, through the paint and bite into bare metal (yes it will dimple the underside a bit but it's not really a big deal)
- the contact with the set screw and bare metal will be sealed around by the epoxy bead. the only way moisture will get at that bare metal will be up through the set screw threads that will already be nicely surrounded by the epoxy.
- get fluid fluid film (no ox id is ideal but you probably wont be able to apply the paste around the underside of the mount due to space limitations). fluid film works fine. it won't dry, freeze or run or evaporate. it will seal and surround the set screws. use the applicator straw and fill in the areas around the set screws under the mount. it will turn black eventually from all the road dust and grit, but it will be functional and repel water. if you really want to , reapply maybe once a year or so
- this method I've been able to get at most 0.1 ohms resistance when measuring from the mount to fender ground with a decent ohmmeter

at VHF and UHF it's probably not worth the hassle of bonding the entire vehicle with copper straps if you don't purchase a ground independent antenna. if you are using HF or below, this becomes more important

hopefully this post can help folks / new comers to radio not be discouraged. there is a lot of incorrect information online about electrical grounding, ground planes and RF grounding. it can be overwhelming to sort through
 
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No CB here but HAM radio and GMRS.

Currently mounted to the factory rails until I can replace the roof rack with something nicer. Antenna is mounted to a motorized folding mount which works great in parking garages or in areas where you need to sneak under a tree. Hope to mount the motor portion a little more hidden once the rack is replaced.
 

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It's nice to see a fellow ham that doesn't immediately shit all over any type of mount that is not in the dead centre,


I'm not a firm believer in that either. I use antennas that don't require a ground plane so mounting in the center of your vehicle is not necessary. I had dual antennas mounted behind the cab of my 05 Tacoma on the bed rails and attached to motorized folding motors for parking garages. Just posted above my current setup on my new to me 2023 4Runner.... Taco got totaled by a teen not paying attention. 19 years of service and 303k miles. Ugh. Not fun wiring everything up again on a new vehicle.
 
tyt th-9000d mounted in the center console to the plastic removable thing. cable runs out the firewall, up the a pillar, along the prinsu rack side rail to the middle'ish of the rack and then a magnetic base is on a piece of 1/8" steel. the steel is bolted to 2 of the crossbars. only complaint is the volume. added an external speaker in front of the useless cubby, helped a little. The magnetic antennae is a short one and it also unscrews from the base. So when you don't want to look like a pretend undercover cop you can unscrew it and everything else stays. no evidence of an antennae setup at that point.
 
I'm not a firm believer in that either. I use antennas that don't require a ground plane so mounting in the center of your vehicle is not necessary. I had dual antennas mounted behind the cab of my 05 Tacoma on the bed rails and attached to motorized folding motors for parking garages. Just posted above my current setup on my new to me 2023 4Runner.... Taco got totaled by a teen not paying attention. 19 years of service and 303k miles. Ugh. Not fun wiring everything up again on a new vehicle.

a lot of old crusty hams will say you must mount dead centre and you must drill. of course that will be the BEST solution. but really a mobile unit in a vehicle is a compromise in the first place. there is so much electrical noise from a moving vehicle and line of sight impeders for vhf and to an extent uhf that you can't get perfection in a mobile mount. I had a ground independent antenna from comet, it was the sbb5. had SWR 1.7 or lower on both VHF and UHF FM bands. pretty impressive antenna. also had an ss680 which technically wasn't ground independent but still had good SWR as well. with that on the roof you should get good reception and broadcast

I actually just removed my ham radio from my truck. I might change the location. I had a hood mount near the a pillar but in the winter it got full of snow and ice and made it a pain to clean my windshield. just have my HT right now but don't use it often. if anyone is looking for radio parts or antennas PM me, I have extras I don't need

303k miles on the taco wow, could have probably gone 300 more too.
 
No CB here but HAM radio and GMRS.

Currently mounted to the factory rails until I can replace the roof rack with something nicer. Antenna is mounted to a motorized folding mount which works great in parking garages or in areas where you need to sneak under a tree. Hope to mount the motor portion a little more hidden once the rack is replaced.

That's cool, I didn't realize motorized antenna mounts were a thing. Very neat!
 
That's cool, I didn't realize motorized antenna mounts were a thing. Very neat!

Diamond(R) Antenna ~ K9000LRM Motorized Luggage Rack Mount

Here's a link if you're interested. I had dual antenna's on my Tacoma before it was totaled and parking for work was in a parking garage. Loved these and they worked perfectly. Since my OP I replaced the switch it comes with with one from OnBoardAir.com and a relay. Fits where the seat heater switch would go.

For the Tacoma I modified the mounting bracket so I could attach them to the truck bed rails. For the 4Runner I just used it as designed. If you have an aftermarket rack like a Prinsu or Sherpa it's super easy to modify the bracket for your needs.
 
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