liveoffroad
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thanks that's what i was goin for. tryin to figure out a good front bumper design that will match
Liveoffroad's '84 build
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KidVermicious
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I just noticed you don't have your dogbone hooked up. You're still push-pull, right? How much brake-steer do you get?
liveoffroad
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I still use it on the highway, just unhook it when i wheel. here's my quick disconnect setup :biggrin2:
KidVermicious
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Oh, KidV likey. Details please!
liveoffroad
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its just a standard 5/8" diameter hitch pin, can get em at most hardware stores for less than 10 bucks. the bar itself came with my dropped drag link.
side note: I had to cut 2" off of the drag link and the "whishbone" part when i moved my axle forward, then retap the internal threads. its kind of a big job but if your axle is in the stock location you have nothin to worry about
side note: I had to cut 2" off of the drag link and the "whishbone" part when i moved my axle forward, then retap the internal threads. its kind of a big job but if your axle is in the stock location you have nothin to worry about
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KidVermicious
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I've never seen a T handle hitch pin like that. That's great, I love it!
liveoffroad
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here you go 5$
Easy Grip Hitch Pin
it takes some "persuading" to get it in and out sometimes. i carry a 3lb sledge w/me
Easy Grip Hitch Pin
it takes some "persuading" to get it in and out sometimes. i carry a 3lb sledge w/me
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liveoffroad
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got tired of sounding like a ricer so i got some new exhaust:
Had the front half built by a shop cuz i didn't want to mess with all the bends required for the x-over. they adapted it to my old muffler and tailpipe for now but i'm gonna replace all that when i get some time.
Had the front half built by a shop cuz i didn't want to mess with all the bends required for the x-over. they adapted it to my old muffler and tailpipe for now but i'm gonna replace all that when i get some time.
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liveoffroad
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also made this out of 11 ga steel
and my new cb:
and my new cb:
liveoffroad
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headin to moab right after work, should have some pics for yall in a few days
KidVermicious
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Bastard.
If it wasn't EJS, I'd be insanely jealous. As it is, all I'll say is good luck.
liveoffroad
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Bastard.
If it wasn't EJS, I'd be insanely jealous. As it is, all I'll say is good luck.
haha watching dumb jeep drivers is one of my favorite pastimes
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liveoffroad
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Trip was awesome. haven't got all the pictures uploaded, but here's a preview:
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liveoffroad
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I noticed that there was a lot of wheel hop in the front end on steep climbs. I believe its occuring because of this:
anytime the front end unloads, the leaves separate and "fan" out. then, when torque is applied, the axle wraps since the spring pack has nearly zero resistance at full droop. so i'm in the process of adding spring clamps.
anytime the front end unloads, the leaves separate and "fan" out. then, when torque is applied, the axle wraps since the spring pack has nearly zero resistance at full droop. so i'm in the process of adding spring clamps.
KidVermicious
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Sweet pics. What trails did you run?
liveoffroad
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thanks
we ran greenday (area BFE), the trifecta, hells revenge, and part of steel bender
we ran greenday (area BFE), the trifecta, hells revenge, and part of steel bender
liveoffroad
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My brothers suburban:
...and his torn t-case mount
liveoffroad
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I'm at the point of planning the next stage, which is the front axle. currently my axle is completely stock except for gearing. i decided that i do not want to dump any money into the mini truck axle (high steer, new birf's etc) unless i intend to keep it forever. the more i think about it, i really want a wider axle up there to eliminate the scrub radius that plagues these axles.
options are:
FJ60: this is a very appealing option since its the same width as the ifs rear and also is the cheapest of these options to buy. biggest drawback i can see is that aftermarket parts are tough to come by
FJ80: very good option, 8" HP third with e-locker from the factory. heavier shafts and birf's than minitruck, 63" wms only draw back is the price and the steering geometry.
Dana 60: Simple to put in, would have to have it narrowed some.
diamond: haven't got a quote from the company, but just talking to ppl who have them, i'd be looking at 1500-2k to roll it under the truck
TG rock assault: 700 for the housing, then buy birf's, high-steer, etc so prob in the same range as the diamond
I am on a budget so the last 2 options are out. I think the dana 60 would be fairly straightforward but i'd really like to stay toyota if possible. I've gone back and forth about the FJ60 vs FJ80 axle. what it seems to come down to is that if i want to keep leaves up front, the FJ60 is the better option since i'm not willing to spend 1k on the high steer kit for the 80 axle.
I've never done much research on 3-links but then i saw this:
Who reused FJ80 front suspension for SAS on mini/4Runner? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
4landrunner build-up
This looks like a very affordable way to get a wider axle up front. basically just swap the whole front end of the 80 over, steering and everything. no aftermarket parts required. i realize this setup wont have 5' of flex, but i'm not building a buggy. as far as strenght goes, the HP 8" and beefier shafts and birfs should be plenty strong enouh for me. i've ran a stock minitruck axle with 35's for 1 1/2 years now w/o breaking anything, and i dont plan on ever going bigger than 37s. i realize things change when you add a locker to the mix, but i could always buy shafts later if i need to
here's a price comparison i threw together:
well thats where i'm at for now. any feedback would be appreciated.
more links:
http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/other-products/16/5th-stud-high-steer-trunion-bolt-setup.html
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107530
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/915144-front-inner-axle-shaft-lengths.html
http://www.yankeetoys.org/mangler/elocker.htm
http://digitalferg.blogspot.com/2012/07/toyota-80-series-electric-locking.html
options are:
FJ60: this is a very appealing option since its the same width as the ifs rear and also is the cheapest of these options to buy. biggest drawback i can see is that aftermarket parts are tough to come by
FJ80: very good option, 8" HP third with e-locker from the factory. heavier shafts and birf's than minitruck, 63" wms only draw back is the price and the steering geometry.
Dana 60: Simple to put in, would have to have it narrowed some.
diamond: haven't got a quote from the company, but just talking to ppl who have them, i'd be looking at 1500-2k to roll it under the truck
TG rock assault: 700 for the housing, then buy birf's, high-steer, etc so prob in the same range as the diamond
I am on a budget so the last 2 options are out. I think the dana 60 would be fairly straightforward but i'd really like to stay toyota if possible. I've gone back and forth about the FJ60 vs FJ80 axle. what it seems to come down to is that if i want to keep leaves up front, the FJ60 is the better option since i'm not willing to spend 1k on the high steer kit for the 80 axle.
I've never done much research on 3-links but then i saw this:
Who reused FJ80 front suspension for SAS on mini/4Runner? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
4landrunner build-up
This looks like a very affordable way to get a wider axle up front. basically just swap the whole front end of the 80 over, steering and everything. no aftermarket parts required. i realize this setup wont have 5' of flex, but i'm not building a buggy. as far as strenght goes, the HP 8" and beefier shafts and birfs should be plenty strong enouh for me. i've ran a stock minitruck axle with 35's for 1 1/2 years now w/o breaking anything, and i dont plan on ever going bigger than 37s. i realize things change when you add a locker to the mix, but i could always buy shafts later if i need to
here's a price comparison i threw together:
well thats where i'm at for now. any feedback would be appreciated.
more links:
http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/other-products/16/5th-stud-high-steer-trunion-bolt-setup.html
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107530
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/915144-front-inner-axle-shaft-lengths.html
http://www.yankeetoys.org/mangler/elocker.htm
http://digitalferg.blogspot.com/2012/07/toyota-80-series-electric-locking.html
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KidVermicious
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I'm pretty sure theres a Tacoma-width RockAssault in my future. You can order it with any pinion angle you need, already set up for leaves, it's got tubes and knuckle balls just as tough as any 80-series axle, and it comes with Dirty30s.
Beefy shafts for the 80 aren't very cheap, I don't think...
Beefy shafts for the 80 aren't very cheap, I don't think...
BucknutBob
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Great action shots of your rig on the red rock! Looks like you're getting really good articulation from your set-up. That is such a cool place--those trails really let you know if what you've done works.
