Bootleg
New member
You'd be right. It's all about the center diff. I miss my WRX and the Forester XT for just that reason. Scoobnuts are stupid fun!:thumb:
Loving this vehicle in the snow. :)
- Thread starter Swede71
- Start date
You'd be right. It's all about the center diff. I miss my WRX and the Forester XT for just that reason. Scoobnuts are stupid fun!:thumb:
NoOneBetter
Member
I too, came from a 5-speed Forester XT before the 4Runner. That thing was a beast in the snow.
zefram47
New member
Not what I wanted to hear! I'm about to trade my 2012 STi in on a 2016 TEP and am hoping I can still go ice racing and not suck too badly. I just found that I drive my Miata a hell of a lot more than the STi since I bought it to be my cheaper-to-run race car and want the space the 4Runner will afford, all while taking advantage of the great trails around Colorado where I now live. Don't get me wrong, I love the STi and will likely miss the turbo and AWD a lot. Thought about a Limited for the full-time 4WD, as part-time scares me a bit after driving AWD cars for the last 12 years.
Awd vs 4x4
I've driven army Jeeps, and a load of other 4x4s and awds, since 1952 (Land Rovers, Int'l Scout, Blazer II, Isuzu, Mitsu, Cherokee, etc.) and recently traded a Wrangler JKU for a 4Runner Trail. They will all take you safely through snow and shite, but you have to understand how to use them. If you are going to face a lot of icy conditions, then fit studded tires. Otherwise, drive as if your life depended on it. It does! - Ted
I've driven army Jeeps, and a load of other 4x4s and awds, since 1952 (Land Rovers, Int'l Scout, Blazer II, Isuzu, Mitsu, Cherokee, etc.) and recently traded a Wrangler JKU for a 4Runner Trail. They will all take you safely through snow and shite, but you have to understand how to use them. If you are going to face a lot of icy conditions, then fit studded tires. Otherwise, drive as if your life depended on it. It does! - Ted
willie2323
New member
hey guys,
I just came from a 3rd gen (went to my son) to a 5th gen and let me tell ya about A-TRAC...if you have this option you will most likely never think about getting stuck again. It is amazing technology. Check out some youtube videos of getting intentionally stuck to the running boards in sand then went to A-TRAC/crawl control and pulled right out. Took a little time but pulled right out.
This gentleman does a great job of explaing it...
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/a-trac-trac-auto-lsd-explained-easy-to-understand-i-hope.70551/
here is a great example...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vizNbJY_F3U
cheers,
willie
TRDfan2011
New member
Waiting for snow to try new Revos
The oem Duellers were great for me in the snow.
Treadwear was horrible. Had to replace at 24k miles. I called Bridgestone and was told oem tires are built to the auto mfg's specs which means softer compound and aren't covered under the tire mfg's treadwear of 60k for the Dueller. I told the rep I would never buy another bridgestone and my oem tires were "adjusted" to the 60k treadwear as a courtesy. I pro-rated into Revos this summer based on mixed reviews of BFG Ko2, CooperAt/3 & Revo 2. Can't wait to see how they perform in snow.
The oem Duellers were great for me in the snow.
Treadwear was horrible. Had to replace at 24k miles. I called Bridgestone and was told oem tires are built to the auto mfg's specs which means softer compound and aren't covered under the tire mfg's treadwear of 60k for the Dueller. I told the rep I would never buy another bridgestone and my oem tires were "adjusted" to the 60k treadwear as a courtesy. I pro-rated into Revos this summer based on mixed reviews of BFG Ko2, CooperAt/3 & Revo 2. Can't wait to see how they perform in snow.
CrazyMike
Member
Building tires to OEM specs is SOP for all tire manufacturers for passenger car/light truck. The auto manufacturer has stringent specifications on how a tire must perform on new vehicles. If the tire manufacturer doesn't build them to their specifications, then the auto manufacturer goes to another tire manufacturer. Besides, the Technical Standard requires the tire manufacturer to build to customer specifications.
FYI:
Replacement market tires are not built to auto manufacturer specifications and even though you're buying the "same" tire, it's not the same.
My recommendation is to buy BFG KO2's but then again I'm biased. :thumb3:
TRDfan2011
New member
That's correct. That's why I was given the courtesy warranty that is carried by the tire mfg on replacement tires. Interesting though, the rep told me NOT to buy the tires from the dealer because they could slip me the "oem" version. Don't know if it's bs or not but I've learned that dealers over price & over sell.
I was reluctant to get ko2s because many posts referenced problems with balancing and steering not feeling right till tires warmed up. They do look nice in 275 with no lift. I'll eventually try the ko2 & at3.
