mopar swap

[Lil Red Yarder]

so im about fed up with my runner not starting. im starting to think about a small block conversion. i wanna be different and go with a 318 or 360 chrysler. i know the thing to do is a 350 but i like mopar products. PAw used to make a kit for it and i once seen an 87 with a 440. now PAW dosent seem to be doing much of anything. does anyone know if a kit for this is still made or would i be doing a total custom conversion?

 

[Bad_Vision]

Nope the kits are no longer sold.
if your dead seat on mopar you will have to use the entire driveline engine tranny transfer-case and have custom shafts made and a custom cross-member made and custom engine-mounts. all in all not a hard thing to do if you have a welder.
but remember if you plan on wheeling your going to want fuel injection as carburetors don't work on inclines and tips.
im sure you can find a TBI 318 pretty cheap with auto tranny and t case. and most v8 guys swap out the 22re radiator for just a V6.

I recommend not doing the mopar and just stick with ford or chevy but if your dead set on it then youll have a lot of money into fabrication just to make it work. not to mention you will almost certainly have to have a automatic transmission because the dodge trannys are crazy LONG.

 

[Lil Red Yarder]

Thats what i figured. Always wanted to do a mopar swap but it will wait till i find a runner for a project. I got talked into putting toyota carburated intake on if I cant cant get mine to run soon. not a good idea but i gotta do something

 

[Bad_Vision]

its been done but keep in mind the 20r intake is not a direct fit to the 22re there are modification that have to be done. i looked into this myself when i had a no start issue ended up i needed all new sensors the computer fried and took EVERY sensor with it.

 

[csrobb007]

Nope the kits are no longer sold.
if your dead seat on mopar you will have to use the entire driveline engine tranny transfer-case and have custom shafts made and a custom cross-member made and custom engine-mounts. all in all not a hard thing to do if you have a welder.
but remember if you plan on wheeling your going to want fuel injection as carburetors don't work on inclines and tips.
im sure you can find a TBI 318 pretty cheap with auto tranny and t case. and most v8 guys swap out the 22re radiator for just a V6.

I recommend not doing the mopar and just stick with ford or chevy but if your dead set on it then youll have a lot of money into fabrication just to make it work. not to mention you will almost certainly have to have a automatic transmission because the dodge trannys are crazy LONG.

BV...couldn't agree more. While different is sometimes cool...cool costs. I do a variety of engine / trans swaps and installs in my shop, and I can tell you that unless you have lots of time, solid fabrication skills, and access to odd parts (well stocked Mopar junkyard), you're asking for many sleepless nights or at a least, the desire to be frusterated. My advise would be as BV says...stick with the mainstream, do a Ford or Chevy. Buy a totalled four wheel drive pickup and youll have all the parts in one place...brackets, cooling, running gear, etc., and save the headaches. A lot of times there are reasons why some conversions aren't done...don't be the one to find out what they are half way through.

 

[Lil Red Yarder]

I was gonna do the Chrysler swap because it is different and I have a 76 power wagon with a built 360 and blown 727 torqueflight tranny. Since I cant get a swap kit I will find and old 4 speed manual to use. I can get 3 NP205 t-cases. I dont have anything against chevys but I wont touch a ford product. I can fabricate a bit and what I cant I know people that can. But for now it will wait.

A 22r intake will fit some 22re heads. My spare head came off a 22re that had been swaped to carboration. Its not hard to do and for me it would be temporary

 

[Gerdo]

Nope!
A Mopar into a Toyota CAN NOT BE DONE! Or at least, it shouldn't be done.

If you do, I want to see it.
True, Chevy 350s seem to be the usual.

 

[Bad_Vision]

its not that it cant be done anything is possible with enough money.
but if he was to do a complete drive train swap it would be fairly cheap just some homemade motor mounts and a homemade cross member some custom drive shafts and hes all set with a auto tranny.
i had some custom shafts made locally and it was only like $120 to go from a mazda to a chevy. but like CSROBB said its all a headache and money game.

 

[GonOvr]

Mopar blocks are very wide, i almost guarantee the truck has to be built around the drivetrain. There are reasons why they arent a popular swap motor. If you are hell bent on doing it, then I say God Speed to you. I met this guy in Oregon through a friend in Oregon runs a 440(if i recall) in his '88 pickup. It is completely custom and strickly made for mud drags. Might want to see if you can get in touch with him and ask some questions.

I dont remember his name and im not sure if JASE4X4 is him or not but its the only one i've ever seen. Its the black truck (obviously) and there are a few more videos of it on his page.

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[Lil Red Yarder]

If I do it, it will wait till I get the one I got now going and then find me another 1st gen to play with so I can take my time with it. I know it will be a lot of work but I think the end result could very well be worth it.