Murder or Travyon Martin

[josh.bunch]

and therein lies some ugly disconnection.

reasonable people who based on what we know believe he was murdered by zimmerman, and...

less reasonable people who want to interject irrelevance such as "he was suspended for pot, omg!" or "he has gold teeth" to somehow justify his murder because of their own latent racism.

booya.

People who have gold in their mouth that is not invented to prevent cavities should be shot. I'm the only person with the courage to say it. Can I include people with face tattoos or is that taking it too far?

 

[calikev]

Again, I will ask someone to say this would be OK if this were their "child"

Just one person...ANYONE? Easy to say it's OK when it's not yours or mine


The Zimmerman supporters shouldn't have a problem saying yes to this.

 

[josh.bunch]

Because I can barely afford to take a vacation myself and I'm paying for this lady to get a tan in Hawaii 2 Christmas in a row, then rent an entire ski resort in Aspen. What happened to the whole share the wealth thing? This pisses me off. I'm going to the range...:ak472::gun6::AK47::50cal:

 

[tbst]

Because I can barely afford to take a vacation myself and I'm paying for this B!TCH to get a tan in Hawaii 2 Christmas in a row, then rent an entire ski resort in Aspen. What happened to the whole share the wealth thing? This pisses me off. I'm going to the range...:ak472::gun6::AK47::50cal:

You have lost touch with reality.

 

[calikev]

You also paid for a bunch of oil propositions to be renewed for the Bush's and quite a few ranches in that "fine state of Texas" of yours

 

[tbst]

Again, I will ask someone to say this would be OK if this were their "child"

Just one person...ANYONE? Easy to say it's OK when it's not yours or mine


The Zimmerman supporters shouldn't have a problem saying yes to this.

The people in this thread want to get in cyclical arguments in which they NEVER have to actually make a statement. Rather they want to post something from some random website about the case and then when you challenge it say that they don't support it rather they just posted it.

You will soon see.

 

[tbst]

People who have gold in their mouth that is not invented to prevent cavities should be shot. I'm the only person with the courage to say it. Can I include people with face tattoos or is that taking it too far?

So off topic and idiotic. You want Zimmerman to be treated like a queen but you want to shot people that pay for their own dental work?

Of course, you are joking. Obviously no one could be that idiotic.

 

[tbst]

We know, from eye witness accounts, 911 tapes, Zimmermans account, and physical evidence that Martin was on top of and beating Zimmerman, correct? Can we all agree to this?

Has anyone produced evidence of any physical damage to Martin other than the gunshot wound - particularly any physical evidence suggesting Zimmerman initiated the altercation? Anything like a busted lip? Black eye (not racism)? Bruised ribs? Anything at all suggesting Zimmerman wasn't acting in self defense?

Once again, it is very difficult to get answers from Trayvon.

There is no evidence supporting Zimmerman's self defense claim as this point either, according to your evidence standards. All we know is Trayvon is dead.

 

[theizzardking]

Because I can barely afford to take a vacation myself and I'm paying for this B!TCH to get a tan in Hawaii 2 Christmas in a row, then rent an entire ski resort in Aspen. What happened to the whole share the wealth thing? This pisses me off. I'm going to the range...:ak472::gun6::AK47::50cal:

VACATION DAYS

 

[tbst]

Well, if the victim turns to violence, then yeah. Just answer the watch person and walk on. If one chooses to physically attack the person, then the law stands to protect that individual. If Z accounts are true, then Z did NOT use his gun until being beat up and as last resort. It is not like Z became a KKK and just kill the kid on the spot without provocation. THAT would be a hate crime.

If Z's account is true, he chased down Trayvon and he ended up dead.

 

[tbst]

Well, in these hard times, maybe the she should show some restraint in using our tax dollars??? Just a thought.

Crack kills. Really, you need to put down the crack pipe.

Do you really think there is a whole conspiracy where Obama goes on vacation using tax payer dollars to fund the vacation? Really?

Yeah, he needs secret service. As has every president since Lincoln.

 

[tbst]

I'm going to post it again so everyone sees this. The political narrative is that whites discriminate upon blacks to a much larger degree in this country and that blacks are the victims. These figures do not lie, spin, bend, twist, or torque the facts. Open your eyes people. When the media tells you its sunny outside - go check for yourself to make sure.

Why do you keep trying to sidetrack? We are all well aware of the other atrocities going on in the world and in our country.

In this thread we are discussing ONE of them. Not any others. If you could understand that, then maybe you would be able to contribute something to the thread other than random facts that have nothing to do with a dead 16 year old.

 

[calikev]

tbst....you are cleaning house! You must already be at the range...LOL...

I'm gonna step aside and let you handle your business SIR!

 

[josh.bunch]

You have lost touch with reality.

You are very easily provoked. Don't take yourself so seriously.

You also paid for a bunch of oil propositions to be renewed for the Bush's and quite a few ranches in that "fine state of Texas" of yours

So I paid for oil propositions to be renewed so I can continue to drive my car and pay less than $4 a gallon hopefully, and I paid for Michelle's vacations. GIVE ME OIL.

As far as Texas goes, you sir better watch your mouth before I make you bleed your own blood. Only the Dos Eqius man has been granted special permission to mess with Texas.

So off topic and idiotic. You want Zimmerman to be treated like a queen but you want to shot people that pay for their own dental work?

Of course, you are joking. Obviously no one could be that idiotic.

I dont want him to be treated like a queen. When did I say anything like that? You are the worst kind of person. Someone who puts worlds in peoples mouths. Please quote me where I said anything at all close to that.

I want to shot people who pay for their own dental work? No I want to SHOOT them. Not shot them. It also has nothing to do with dental work. It's just a horrible fashion statement. I said gold in the mouth for dental work is fine. You are ret@rded.

VACATION DAYS

Well if you found a jpeg on the internet it must be true. I like the golf stat personally.

Days of golf played in presidency:

Obama in 3.5 years- 92 days of golf
Bush in 8 years - 24 days of golf

Also, I wasn't talking about Obama's vacationing. It is Michelle that gets me.

 

[BrianSD_42]

Because I can barely afford to take a vacation myself

So Josh, whose fault is it that you are poor? Maybe you should have tried harder, got a better education -right. Isn't that the conservative way = if you are poor then its your own fault.

Also, pretty classless to call a woman you dont even know a *****.

More likely, your bigitry and hatred is whats keeping you down.

. It is Michelle that gets me.

Why do you give $hit what Michelle does? She isn't paid by the American people, she doesnt collect a check. Your ignorance is pretty astounding.

 

[josh.bunch]

Crack kills. Really, you need to put down the crack pipe.

Do you really think there is a whole conspiracy where Obama goes on vacation using tax payer dollars to fund the vacation? Really?

Yeah, he needs secret service. As has every president since Lincoln.

Do you really believe that tax payers don't pay for the presidents vacations? I never thought there was any dispute on this subject.

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I know taxpayers don't pay for all of the cost of the vacations, but it is a substantial amount. When Michelle is ordering bottles of top shelf vodka it seems excessive and selfish.

Maybe the disconnect is age, maybe it is upbringing. Maybe it is how much you pay in taxes vs what I pay in taxes. Maybe you get a refund each year while i shell out 10's of thousands. I dont know. Either way, I dont think this is the thread for this ranting, so I will digress and let this thing get back on the tracks.

Please don't take anything I say personal. I'm mostly playing devil's advocate.

 

[RunninInGA]

I'll go with..armed man pursuing minor around neighborhood, for $400, Alex.

But, according to what we know (that's the basis of this thread, yes?), Zimmerman was going back to his truck when Martin approached him from behind. He wasn't pursuing your innocent drug dealer teenager, he was pursuing his driver seat. He was retreating. That's when Martin approached him from behind. Punched him, and began beating his head against the pavement. Then, Zimmerman, after screaming for help (due to fear of his life, yes?) shot Martin in the chest. such that there was not anther round chambered. Know anything about semi-automatic pistols? Firing one round engages the slide which then chambers the next round. Something stopped that action - either Zimmermans body or someone's hand. Ever try firing a semi-auto held against your body? This further indicates a struggle.

So I ask again, what evidence of physical damage is there to Martin other than the fatal gunshot wound? Certainly there's some evidence right? I mean this 250-lbs white racist animal attacked your weakling innocent teenager, but there hasn't been any acknowledgment of ANY physical damage to Martin. Certainly you guys prejudging this case have considered this aspect and already have a viable answer beyond the garbage response posted above. That crap would get anyone laughed out of court in this country for a number of reasons. (except the kangaroo Internet court of course)

 

[RunninInGA]

Once again, it is very difficult to get answers from Trayvon.

There is no evidence supporting Zimmerman's self defense claim as this point either, according to your evidence standards. All we know is Trayvon is dead.

Coroners report would certainly give indications to busted lips, bruised ribs, etc. we also know local PD, knowing the laws of their jurisdiction much better than you or I, did not arrest the man, indicating the killing was legal rather than your hope of the other alternative.

Why do you keep trying to sidetrack? We are all well aware of the other atrocities going on in the world and in our country.

In this thread we are discussing ONE of them. Not any others. If you could understand that, then maybe you would be able to contribute something to the thread other than random facts that have nothing to do with a dead 16 year old.

But you guys continue to bring up racism as if it's only the white mans impairment and are so quick to discharge it like everyone else is permanently innocent from its use as an aggressor, but constantly threatened by it as a victim.

As I've told you, your shortsightedness is amazing to me. We've agreed on things in the past, but you still accuse me of being wrong - even when we agree. Oh, you are incredibly easy to work up into a frenzy. Reminds me of my youngest sister. :cheers:

 

[ndcent]

"I was walking back to my truck" = "the dog ate my homework"

 

[RunninInGA]

Your agenda is set and you're blind to anything to the contrary. You gonna let this go if Z is never arrested or acquitted if put through trial?