Muti Terrain Select Not Available but no error code?

[comtn4x4]

Forgive me if this has been addressed before. I didn't find quite this exact scenario anywhere

I was just getting back to pavement after a couple days on the trail. First off I noticed my driver front tire must have taken a hit and was way out of alignment. I didn't think much of that at first.
After airing up and turning the engine back on, the message "MULTI TERRAIN SELECT NOT AVAILABLE" flashed on the data display and the Multi Terrain Select light is flashing and the Slip Indicator light is solid on.
I get no error codes on my OBD II reader.
I have tried restarting, going in and out of 4LO and 4HI a couple times, cycling multi terrain select on and off, and everything else I could think of short of disconnecting the battery.
I couldn't see any issues other than the wheel out of alignment but I'm not even sure what I would be looking for.

I realize going to Toyota is probably the solution, however, they do crappy alignments and I hate giving them money unless I really need to.

Thoughts?

 

[CF_Machete]

Forgive me if this has been addressed before. I didn't find quite this exact scenario anywhere

I was just getting back to pavement after a couple days on the trail. First off I noticed my driver front tire must have taken a hit and was way out of alignment. I didn't think much of that at first.
After airing up and turning the engine back on, the message "MULTI TERRAIN SELECT NOT AVAILABLE" flashed on the data display and the Multi Terrain Select light is flashing and the Slip Indicator light is solid on.
I get no error codes on my OBD II reader.
I have tried restarting, going in and out of 4LO and 4HI a couple times, cycling multi terrain select on and off, and everything else I could think of short of disconnecting the battery.
I couldn't see any issues other than the wheel out of alignment but I'm not even sure what I would be looking for.

I realize going to Toyota is probably the solution, however, they do crappy alignments and I hate giving them money unless I really need to.

Thoughts?

I would check your abs wires first and check for knicks. I've seen a couple threads where guys damage the abs wires when lifting their trucks. The dash usually lights up like a christmas tree.

Since you'll have to get it aligned any way, do that first at a place you trust.

 

[comtn4x4]

I would check your abs wires first and check for knicks. I've seen a couple threads where guys damage the abs wires when lifting their trucks. The dash usually lights up like a christmas tree.

Since you'll have to get it aligned any way, do that first at a place you trust.

If I damaged an ABS wire wouldn't it throw an error code?


I'll definitely get alignment first.

 

[CF_Machete]

If I damaged an ABS wire wouldn't it throw an error code?


I'll definitely get alignment first.

can't comment on error code since I didn't f-up my abs wire when I did my lift, but one would think that a code might be thrown if it was damaged. I'd sill do a visual check, since fixing it your self would be cheaper than paying some one else to do it.

 

[comtn4x4]

can't comment on error code since I didn't f-up my abs wire when I did my lift, but one would think that a code might be thrown if it was damaged. I'd sill do a visual check, since fixing it your self would be cheaper than paying some one else to do it.

Ok fair enough. Thanks for your help

 

[Jeremy556]

If I damaged an ABS wire wouldn't it throw an error code?


I'll definitely get alignment first.

Those lights you see on the dash are your error code. The error is in the ABS/VSC/TRAC module, which unless you have a very advanced scan tool that speaks CAN and knows Toyotas, you won't have access to. It's not an OBD2 error that most scan tools can read, you'll need Techstream.

Most likely what you would see in Techstream on the real time data screen is one the Speed Sensors in an abnormal condition.

 

[Jhalko]

If I damaged an ABS wire wouldn't it throw an error code?


I'll definitely get alignment first.

Get the alignment and have them check the abs wires. I thought you’d get the code as well, but that’s a cheap thing to eliminate before going to the dealer.

 

[comtn4x4]

Those lights you see on the dash are your error code. The error is in the ABS/VSC/TRAC module, which unless you have a very advanced scan tool that speaks CAN and knows Toyotas, you won't have access to. It's not an OBD2 error that most scan tools can read, you'll need Techstream.

Most likely what you would see in Techstream on the real time data screen is one the Speed Sensors in an abnormal condition.

Ok I see. I believe I saw you post about Techstream in a post while researching the problem today. Do I remember correctly that it was fairly affordable? Something I would find useful?

Thanks

 

[Jeremy556]

Ok I see. I believe I saw you post about Techstream in a post while researching the problem today. Do I remember correctly that it was fairly affordable? Something I would find useful?

Thanks

Well, that all depends. You can pickup a $30 cable from eBay that will include a pirated copy of Techstream, along with shady chinese drivers that I wouldn't install on anything but a sandbox VM.

Next up, you can do Techstream Lite, which is actually legitimate and supported by Toyota, and also works a hell of a lot better than the Chinese cable. Price is $1345 which comes with a Mongoose cable and 12 month Techstream Lite subscription. The subscription is about $90 month after that.

The step above that is full on Techstream, which includes a panasonic Toughbook, Toyota cable, and 2 years of TIS subscription for the low, low price of $5,799.

The Chinese cables are super slow for reading data and disconnect randomly and often, making them a real pain to use. They also don't have all of the correct pins working so they cannot flash, write, or do many of the active test modes. The Mongoose cable is much better, but pricey at $500.

 

[comtn4x4]

Well, that all depends. You can pickup a $30 cable from eBay that will include a pirated copy of Techstream, along with shady chinese drivers that I wouldn't install on anything but a sandbox VM.

Next up, you can do Techstream Lite, which is actually legitimate and supported by Toyota, and also works a hell of a lot better than the Chinese cable. Price is $1345 which comes with a Mongoose cable and 12 month Techstream Lite subscription. The subscription is about $90 month after that.

The step above that is full on Techstream, which includes a panasonic Toughbook, Toyota cable, and 2 years of TIS subscription for the low, low price of $5,799.

The Chinese cables are super slow for reading data and disconnect randomly and often, making them a real pain to use. They also don't have all of the correct pins working so they cannot flash, write, or do many of the active test modes. The Mongoose cable is much better, but pricey at $500.

Ok so not very affordable. To Toyota it is!

Thanks

 

[flyboysgt]

Subbed. I have the same lights after changing my tie rod ends and the alignment being way off.


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[comtn4x4]

Update:

Alignment is back in spec.
Multi Terrain Light and Slip light still on.
I inspected ABS wires and alignment shop did also. Couldn't see a problem.
Appointment with Toyota tomorrow

 

[Daohaus]

Update:

Alignment is back in spec.
Multi Terrain Light and Slip light still on.
I inspected ABS wires and alignment shop did also. Couldn't see a problem.
Appointment with Toyota tomorrow

thats really puzzling.

I had something similar happen where i had ABS, Multi-Terrain and slip indicator was on, took it to dealer they scanned for errors codes and didn't see anything.

 

[Jhalko]

Update:

Alignment is back in spec.
Multi Terrain Light and Slip light still on.
I inspected ABS wires and alignment shop did also. Couldn't see a problem.
Appointment with Toyota tomorrow

I think most folks used a meter to check the abs wires from my recollection. I vaguely think a couple had nothing wrong visually. But it’s late and I’ve had bourbon so maybe I don’t remember as clearly. :cheers:

 

[Kenstaroni]

A visual inspection of ABS wires will not always show damage. I damaged one of mine and it looked fine visually but wires were torn inside the outer shielding. You need to test the resistance to know it's working.

 

[comtn4x4]

A visual inspection of ABS wires will not always show damage. I damaged one of mine and it looked fine visually but wires were torn inside the outer shielding. You need to test the resistance to know it's working.

Ok that's good to know. We'll see today what Toyota says

Thanks

 

[comtn4x4]

And the winner is..... Zero Point Calibration. :doh:
I could have done it myself and saved $80

 

[Daohaus]

What's that involve?
Nevermind, did a little googling and found it. Makes me wonder if that's what happened with me after I put on oversized tires.

And the winner is..... Zero Point Calibration. :doh:
I could have done it myself and saved $80

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[Jhalko]

And the winner is..... Zero Point Calibration. :doh:
I could have done it myself and saved $80

Lame. :moon:

I’ll buy you a beer if we ever connect or hit the trail together to help offset this cost. :clap2:

 

[elnip]

And the winner is..... Zero Point Calibration. :doh:
I could have done it myself and saved $80

I had the same issue when I cranked up the coil overs and the steering wheel was crooked. The lights came on as I was leaving the house to get an alignment. Was worried that I pulled the abs wire because everyone jumps on that first. Found about the Zero Point Cal and it made sense. Did it with two
paper clips on the side of the road. 5 min tops. I wish I could have caught ya two days earlier....