My 4runner cranks for 5-6+ seconds before starting in cold weather. Ideas?
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I went to autozone tonight to get a battery but they didn't have an Optima Redtop in the size I wanted, and I want to get a Redtop, so I'm going to see if I can order one online for a reasonable price...
I really don't think it is the battery since it makes no sense that octane would make a difference if the battery is the issue but I'm willing to try anyway since the OEM panasonic battery is over 4 years old now and I don't want to risk leaving the wife stranded.
I really don't think it is the battery since it makes no sense that octane would make a difference if the battery is the issue but I'm willing to try anyway since the OEM panasonic battery is over 4 years old now and I don't want to risk leaving the wife stranded.
Well guys, I went yesterday to autozone and got a brand new duralast gold battery... $89.99 with the core swap.
First start the car died about 2 seconds after... I guess the computer needed to readjust.
Second start... still weak like how I mentioned in the original post but at least it didn't die. I hoped that it was just because it was a new battery.
After several trips and several chances for the computer to readjust and new battery to charge I can unfortunately confidently say nothing has changed with the weak starting issue.
And I feel kinda bad basically throwing away my original equipment Panasonic battery... it was only 4 years and 1 month old so I probably had another year or two left in it. Then again I wouldn't want my wife to be stranded. Still a feel a bit wasteful.
So this upcoming week I'm going to swap my 335i's keys for my wife's 4runner keys and take the camera with me to document the starting issue. I'm going to try some experimenting with priming the fuel pump a couple times before starting, and then well equipped with evidence and documentation of the issue go into my Toyota dealer and demand it be fixed.
I am a little curious if my Toyota platinum 7 year 100k mile warranty will show up the in their computers or if I'm going to have to jump through some hoops there. I have the paperwork for it somewhere but I bought the warranty a couple years ago from a reputable out of state Toyota dealer over the internet.
Just today I noticed a new problem... one of the headlights is hazing over on the inside. I wonder if that would be covered under the extended warranty? Probably not. Guess I might need to do some searching around the board.
First start the car died about 2 seconds after... I guess the computer needed to readjust.
Second start... still weak like how I mentioned in the original post but at least it didn't die. I hoped that it was just because it was a new battery.
After several trips and several chances for the computer to readjust and new battery to charge I can unfortunately confidently say nothing has changed with the weak starting issue.
And I feel kinda bad basically throwing away my original equipment Panasonic battery... it was only 4 years and 1 month old so I probably had another year or two left in it. Then again I wouldn't want my wife to be stranded. Still a feel a bit wasteful.
So this upcoming week I'm going to swap my 335i's keys for my wife's 4runner keys and take the camera with me to document the starting issue. I'm going to try some experimenting with priming the fuel pump a couple times before starting, and then well equipped with evidence and documentation of the issue go into my Toyota dealer and demand it be fixed.
I am a little curious if my Toyota platinum 7 year 100k mile warranty will show up the in their computers or if I'm going to have to jump through some hoops there. I have the paperwork for it somewhere but I bought the warranty a couple years ago from a reputable out of state Toyota dealer over the internet.
Just today I noticed a new problem... one of the headlights is hazing over on the inside. I wonder if that would be covered under the extended warranty? Probably not. Guess I might need to do some searching around the board.
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wonderfulremark
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Have you try to use a block heater? or battery warmer??
CJ3Flyr said:
Oh really? I didn't see a plug change recommended anywhere in the maintenance guide that came with the car. 30k sounds incredibly low for a late model vehicle. So that's what Toyota recommends? I mean FWIW it has been doing this since it was well under 10k miles but it has definitely gotten worse each winter.
BTW does the :cheers: emoticon indicate I have a 6 pack in the mail?
wonderfulremark said:
No but we live in the Memphis, TN area... today for example it was high 40s to low 50s outside. IMO if a car needs a block or battery heater in those kind of temps then something is really really wrong.
CJ3Flyr
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Threxx~ said:Oh really? I didn't see a plug change recommended anywhere in the maintenance guide that came with the car. 30k sounds incredibly low for a late model vehicle. So that's what Toyota recommends? I mean FWIW it has been doing this since it was well under 10k miles but it has definitely gotten worse each winter.
BTW does the :cheers: emoticon indicate I have a 6 pack in the mail?
Perhaps on the beer but I wasn't in on the beer bet it's just a simple salutation of cheers
Spark plugs: http://smg.toyotapartsandservice.com/guides.php?v=1&y=2005&int_id=6
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wonderfulremark
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o....... I wasn't sure how cold you were talking about
shuly
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I guess I owe you some beer...I am rather surprised though that this didn't fix the problem. Don't feel to badly about 4 years on a battery. In SoCal we go through batteries typically in 3-4 years normally. If a stock battery goes 6 years out I would be thrilled. I do hope you find the problem. CJ3's idea of the spark plugs is a possibility, but if you only have 10k miles I would be very surprised to hear that was the problem. Maybe the dealer is the only one who can diagnose the issue?
Good luck and keep us updated.
If you were in SoCal I would be happy actually drop off some beer!
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A virtual 6 pack
Good luck and keep us updated.
If you were in SoCal I would be happy actually drop off some beer!
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Atlanta_man
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Threxx,
your warranty is from a third party (but affiliated with Toyota and the paperwork is made to look like a Toyota warranty).
Dealer must call the 800 number on it and negotiate for them to provide a credit card for the repair. took several repairs before I got my dealer trained.
sometimes it is hard to get through on the 800 number, or so the dealer claims...
You are not in the Toyota computer at all.
your warranty is from a third party (but affiliated with Toyota and the paperwork is made to look like a Toyota warranty).
Dealer must call the 800 number on it and negotiate for them to provide a credit card for the repair. took several repairs before I got my dealer trained.
sometimes it is hard to get through on the 800 number, or so the dealer claims...
You are not in the Toyota computer at all.
Thanks for the link on the plugs. Are there plugs I can replace the stockers with that will last me longer? Which plugs should I use?
Wow... Toyota's own platinum extended warranties as advertised on their own website are underwritten by a 3rd party company? Man... that's kinda crazy.
Atlanta_man said:
Wow... Toyota's own platinum extended warranties as advertised on their own website are underwritten by a 3rd party company? Man... that's kinda crazy.
law021982
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shuly said:
What I have fond with my '06 T4R is the same thing as the 07s, My cam shaft sensor was dead and so was the silonoid on the starter. The was completely dead and it wouldn't start until the 15 times, and the dealership said it would only cost $200 plus labor to fix. I think what it could be is the soilnoid pin on the starter. Since I replaced it, it works so much better. Becareful, if this goes on for a long time, you would have to replace more parts like the timing belt and the cam senors.
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