Need some advice, engine troubles 88 runner

Kel Varnsen

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88 4runner, 22re, 5spd.

Less than 5000 miles on: new head gasket, new oil pump, water pump, radiator, plugs, wires, distributor cap,rotor, timing chain, clutch,valve cover gasket, etc

The truck also has the 82 celica supra afm mod. It has worked great for at least 1500 miles.

The first time I drive it after sitting overnight or leaving from work, it STRUGGLES to build speed. 1st gear and 2nd gear are for the most part ok. 3rd and 4th...it bogs down, stumbles, pops and I have to ease into the gas to get it to accelerate. If i mash the gas it will get horribly worse. Its been going on for about a month. Its getting worse. I can be in 4th gear with the gas on the floor and be doing 35-40mph. Here's the kicker...after it gets up to speed the first time, once it breaks 55mph or so, it will not hesitate or struggle again until the next time it sits for 8 plus hours. Not only that, it runs flawlessly after crossing the 55mph~ish barrier.

I discovered a small coolant leak from the hose next to the throttle position sensor. I fixed the leak (loose hose clamp) But prior to fixing it, there was antifreeze getting on the TPS. I thought that maybe the antifreeze was messing with the tps. But fixing the leak did nothting for the problem.

I have the next two days off and would like to fix this problem. I have contemplated taking the celica afm back off and putting the stock air flow setup in to see if thats it. But that doesnt make sense to me, it seems to me if it was the afm, it would do it all the time. Like i said, after the first inital acceleration, it runs like a dream, but the first time through the gears is getting to be down right scary. I thought about changing the tps but it seems to me that the tps would do it all the time if that was the problem.

Is there something I am missing? Some temperature related part? This is the first time the truck has seen cold weather since I have had it. I am open to all suggestions.

ps the oil is clean,no antifreeze,and vice versa.
 
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Any chance coolant could have gotten into and contaminated the TPS?
Also, the AFM contains the air temp sensor used by the EFI ECM.
 
Any chance coolant could have gotten into and contaminated the TPS?
Also, the AFM contains the air temp sensor used by the EFI ECM.

It is possible the tps is contaminated with coolant. Would the air temp sensor have anything to do with my problem?
 
so after letting the truck run till reaching normal operating temperature before moving it, it didn't do the hesitating, bogging down thing. I am going to let it sit overnight and repeat this in the morning. If it does it twice in a row, then i am thinking it just about has to be something coolant temperature related....
 
I tried again this morning. I let the truck run till normal operating temperature and then drove it. It did not bog or hesitate or anything. Whatever my problem is, it is temperature related???
 
Maybe it's the coil? My professional mechanic friend said that would be a possiblility. I did have a tachometer hooked up in the truck at one time but it read very erratic, I attributed it to a bad tachometer. Maybe the coil was causing that problem too...
 
Temp can affect electronics, for sure. Metal expands and contracts with heat and cold, and if you've got a high open somewhere it could be closing enough to run well when it's hot.

What codes is the ECU throwing? And what happens if you start the truck cold and drive it until it's warm, does the trouble go away?
 
There is an operational check you can do on the coolant temp sensor. Do a quick search and see if you can find it. I would say to check the FSM but the links don't work anymore. I would grab a multimeter and check the tps and all other sensors as well. You only have a handful of sensors so it shouldn't take long to test them. If they test okay then I would look into swapping your AFM back out. If that still doesn't fix it then you may have a wiring issue somewhere or an ECU problem. Odds are it's just a simple sensor though.
 
I swapped back to my stock afm and still have the same problem. Its outside air temperature related for sure. The first day I swapped my stock afm back in, it was 40+ degrees out and I test drove it and it ran perfectly. However, this morning in upper 20 degree temps, it bogged and hesitated in 3rd and 4th. But it only hesitates the first time you go through the gears. If I have to gear down from 5th to 1st, it doesn't hesitate in 3rd or 4th anymore. Its just something going on when the engine is completely cold causing the problem.
 
That's odd warmer should bog it down not cold. When it's cold the air is denser. Makes me think your fuel is leaning out. Check your timing and test the fuel pressure.
Does it have grey smoke on initial start up? Could be coolant pooling on the piston head and once it burns off it would be good.

What's your altitude?
 
Well it has begun to do it when the outside temperature is warm. I have not had a chance to mess with it though. I've only driven it twice since the last post. It does not have any smoke on start up or any at all ever.
 

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