New Lift Won't Fit!!!

I think the point of NOT running the 3rd perch on taller springs is that the shock is extended pretty far out, and that's not real good on it.
 
Shanegpoe said:
I'm running the toytec/eibachs and the bilstein 5100s on the 3rd perch and got exactly 4inches of lift out of it and it haven't had any issues at all. It was a complete pain in the ass to get it in to the LBJ but after using an 8 foot cheater bar to pry it down I made it fit but had to have a second set of hands.
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And now you have no down travel. Nice. :thumb:
 
Shanegpoe said:
I'm running the toytec/eibachs and the bilstein 5100s on the 3rd perch and got exactly 4inches of lift out of it and it haven't had any issues at all. It was a complete pain in the ass to get it in to the LBJ but after using an 8 foot cheater bar to pry it down I made it fit but had to have a second set of hands.
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how did your alignment come out? I had a hard enough time getting a good caster number with my just over 3" lift
 
success!!!

i am so thankful for this forum, and all the helpful advice here! i unbolted the lower ball joint like "the kid" advised, and it worked perfectly!

i test drove it today, and i noticed some vibration only when i got to 60 on the freeway. is that probably just bc it needs to be aligned again?

thanks again for all the help!!!
 
i need to get her washed before i get t4r worthy pics. hopefully up by tomorrow. :) i didn't measure center of hub to fender (like i should have)--i just measured from the ground to bottom of fender flare. with 265/70/16 i got:

39 1/2" front left
39 1/2" + a fraction front right

(with tundra 5100's on second perch)

38 1/2 in back (land cruiser 8/8.5 wraps)

so i have about an inch of rake from front to back. not crazy about that, but i'm wondering if it will still settle a bit? if anything, i'd prefer to have the back sit a little higher than the front, but after all this, i am not complaining. just happy it all worked!
 
marccus said:
i need to get her washed before i get t4r worthy pics. hopefully up by tomorrow. :) i didn't measure center of hub to fender (like i should have)--i just measured from the ground to bottom of fender flare. with 265/70/16 i got:

39 1/2" front left
39 1/2" + a fraction front right

(with tundra 5100's on second perch)

38 1/2 in back (land cruiser 8/8.5 wraps)

so i have about an inch of rake from front to back. not crazy about that, but i'm wondering if it will still settle a bit? if anything, i'd prefer to have the back sit a little higher than the front, but after all this, i am not complaining. just happy it all worked!
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How did you end up with an inch of reverse rake??
 
marccus said:
i need to get her washed before i get t4r worthy pics. hopefully up by tomorrow. :) i didn't measure center of hub to fender (like i should have)--i just measured from the ground to bottom of fender flare. with 265/70/16 i got:

39 1/2" front left
39 1/2" + a fraction front right

(with tundra 5100's on second perch)

38 1/2 in back (land cruiser 8/8.5 wraps)

so i have about an inch of rake from front to back. not crazy about that, but i'm wondering if it will still settle a bit? if anything, i'd prefer to have the back sit a little higher than the front, but after all this, i am not complaining. just happy it all worked!
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Did you measure after you drove the truck around the block? OR when you first sat the truck on the ground? Obviously, when you jack a IFS truck up in the front, the front wheels move closer together and when you set it back down, they are still close together... when you drive it, they will spread back apart like they should and give you the real height ... Mine sat an inch or so higher when I first sat it down compared to measuring after I just rolled it 10 feet backwards and moved the steering wheel side to side to make sure the suspension is fully back down and out...

Edit, just re-read something I missed... this may or may not apply.

Nonetheless, it should settle a bit in the front, but probably not a whole inch.

An easy fix would be to order a set of Daystar 1.5" rear coil spacers. I'm using them on mine right now. From the sound of your measurements, that would leave you .5" higher in the back :D
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GH5PDS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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I just did the 5100's w/Toytec coils and I didn't have to unbolt anything besides the shock. That bottle jack trick is INGENIOUS. Whomever figured that out gets a night of drinks on me. Also, how did you end up with reverse rake!? I just did the 8 wraps and my ass end is definitely about an inch higher. It was about 1.5 inches taller, then settled over two days and now, if I had to guess is about 3/4 to 1" taller than the front. What shocks did you use in the rear?
 
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okay, everything worked, and seemed perfect.

problem is this shake i'm getting at 60 mph. everyone says it's just bc the front tires are feathered, but it didn't do it until right after i lifted it. if it was the tires, wouldn't it have done it when i had the daystar coilspacers as well? those gave me a couple inches of lift. why would the tires not have vibrated at 60 then?

sorry for all the questions. i'm just afraid of buying 285s only to find the vibrations are still there at 60.

is there any way it could be my suspension lift causing this shake?
 
Have you aligned it yet? The new angles created by the lift, especially the lost caster, will make for a bad ride. If you had feathered tires before the lift, you had a preexisting problem (ITRE, OTRE, BJ) or just a bad alignment which is now exacerbated by the lift.
 
marccus said:
After months of waiting on backordered Bilsteins, they finally came in.

Tundra Adjustable Bilsteins (5 settings of adjustment) paired with Toytec/Eibach coils (112-620 Toytec/Eibach front coil lift springs for 4runner).

Worked today on removing factory coils/shocks, compressed, and reused top parts with new shocks and coils.

i set the shocks to the center perch (3rd from the bottom--right in the middle). i bolted in the top 3 studs, and then used the bottle jack method on the upper a-arm to get it to droop to fit the new shock.

here's where i'm at:

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i can't compress the upper a-arm any further or it makes contact with the coil and acutally prevents it from going in where it should

and the bottom of the shock is still this far away:

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i have tried prying with a crow bar, jacking up under the shock to get it to compress up and in, and nothing works!

what are my options???

please help!

p.s.
sorry the stupid pictures are sideways--apparently nothing is working for me today. :ybrick:
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One other thing. Maybe a stupid question. The 1st picture shows the top of the coilover in the UCA. What is between these 2 components? Is it just loosely bolted in with the longer studs from your spacers?
 
JRZEE2000TR4LTD said:
Have you aligned it yet? The new angles created by the lift, especially the lost caster, will make for a bad ride. If you had feathered tires before the lift, you had a preexisting problem (ITRE, OTRE, BJ) or just a bad alignment which is now exacerbated by the lift.
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i got it aligned again (after i lifted it from the spacers to the new struts). and it made no difference in the vibrations at 60 mph. i only drove it 50 miles between lifting it the second time and aligning it. and it started vibrating right away after i had lifted it the second time.

they didn't put longer studs on it for the spacers--the three nuts just went through the coil spacer. those three nuts just tightened to the upper bracket the same way. unless i'm losing it? they are nice and tight without any play.
 
marccus said:
i got it aligned again (after i lifted it from the spacers to the new struts). and it made no difference in the vibrations at 60 mph. i only drove it 50 miles between lifting it the second time and aligning it. and it started vibrating right away after i had lifted it the second time.

they didn't put longer studs on it for the spacers--the three nuts just went through the coil spacer. those three nuts just tightened to the upper bracket the same way. unless i'm losing it? they are nice and tight without any play.
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Mine doesn't look like that. The upper hat is recessed into the UCA.
 

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