crackiswack
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IIRC it was confirmed in the TRD Pro thread but i don't want to wade through all the pages again. Just look at the initial Inferno TRD Pro images, the front is higher
New TRD Pro - Need mild lift options
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CplTurner
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I agree Saker, that certainly would be convenient for a quick bit of extra lift...But correct me if I am wrong..Doesn't that type of adjustment preload the springs? Is that a bad thing in this case?
Newb here just wanting to learn :cheers:
CplTurner
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You dun educated me, TNX :cheers:
CplTurner
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Good to know that this rig will be capable in its stock configuration to do the things I want to do. I think maybe when I posed the question, I confused the need for additional ground clearance, with the possible need for higher rate springs after racks and other weight is added to the vehicle. I think I will take the advice to leave the suspension stock for now, and focus on the priorities of quipping the vehicle with roof rack, jerries etc, then re-evaluate when the vehicle is loaded down.
sn_85
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I think throwing out the TRDP suspension is a huge waste of money and defeats the purpose of getting the TRDP in the first place. IMHO, it's the only part of the TRDP pkg that makes it worth it to spend the extra money for. Everything else can be added to an SR5 or Trail for cheap besides painting it Inferno. The rest are just the wheels, tires, skid, badges, shift knob and floor mats. Consider that you can get a base Trail for $34k and with the TRDP you're paying MSRP. Now you throw out that suspension and spend another $2000 on an aftermarket one. If you're getting a TRDP keep it "stock", add a roof rack, and call it a day.
CplTurner
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That's some pretty hard logic to argue with :cheers:
which highlights my continuous argument that the SR5 is the best bang for the buck platform for anyone that plans to mod the vehicle.
king noob
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as a fellow owner of a TRDP, i agree -
to buy a TRDP and then get a lift kit is a waste. the suspension is really the heart of the TRDP package. if you want a lifted 4runner, buy a TE and put an aftermarket lift on it.
as has been said, i believe your only option that makes any sense it to adjust the front end to the next highest adjustement (if the coil overs are truly adjustable).
to buy a TRDP and then get a lift kit is a waste. the suspension is really the heart of the TRDP package. if you want a lifted 4runner, buy a TE and put an aftermarket lift on it.
as has been said, i believe your only option that makes any sense it to adjust the front end to the next highest adjustement (if the coil overs are truly adjustable).
crackiswack
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Just because it cost a lot of money doesn't make it a great suspension, people throw out the xreas suspension all the time. Mod your car for what you want to do with it, everything you mod on a car is a waste, cars are a waste. There is absolutely nothing special about the suspension that would necessitate keeping it if it doesn't fulfill your desires for your truck.
Bad_Influence
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to the OP, hopefully you can raise the front bilsteins to the 1.75 mark, then put a couple 1 inch spacer pucks in the back. If you want a full length roof rack, don't look much further than drabbits from camelback metal gear!
Intruder
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But with the Limited even if you pull out the XREAS you still have the centre diff, which is worth it to many. Ask anyone who has done it like harper7 and phillyd2. With the TRD Pro I don't think you have anything mechanically different than an SR5 other than the suspension. Either way, any 4Runner will work well as an "overland" vehicle in purely stock form. Save the money from the lift and get some better tires instead.
sn_85
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I never said it was great, I said it was the main thing that differentiates a TRDP from a base Trail. As I said before all the other things that come with the Pro can easily be bought and added to a base Trail (skid, wheels, tires, shift knob, floor mats). If you're buying the Pro and ripping out the suspension you're basically saying you spent an extra $5k for the blacked out bumper piece and the words "Toyota" in the front. :crazy:
It makes ZERO sense to buy a TRDP and rip out the suspension. You might as well just buy a base Trail at that point and put in your own suspension.
Your analogy of changing the suspension on the Limited doesn't make sense either. The Limited has features the other pkgs don't have. Dual Zone A/C, Heated & Cooled seats, Memory seats, Full Time 4WD w/ locking center diff, Real Leather seats (not Softex). Those can't be found on any other package and some people want those things.
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3wbdriver
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But I had to have that bad ass genuine, simulated, imitation, glare producing hood scoop! And a transfer case shifter!!!!!
[MENTION=115881]CplTurner[/MENTION], I just finished a 1300 mile round trip with about 600 pounds of gear and my large self (scaled at 5480 with a full tank). I have the Bilstein 5100 leveling kit set at 1.75" front on factory springs. In the middle of the trip I added about 150 pounds of front bumper and winch. Since then I have returned 450 miles to work in south Texas. The ride is softer, but not radically so. I have decided to add a pair of 2" OME medium springs on the front to offset the additional weight up there, and I will be resetting the Bilsteins to either 0 or .85 to allow for the added spring length. I am still debating whether I will add any more spring in the back yet. I would still be perfectly comfortable overlanding or doing anything up to moderate 4 wheeling with this setup. My recommendation would be to get your accessories first, load it up, and take it on a couple trips. THEN decide if you need to do anything to the suspension.
PS: I do not believe the TRD Bilstein shocks that are installed on the TRD Pro have the adjustment setup that the standard 5100's have. I believe they are already designed to accept more lift and wheel travel and the remote reservoirs allow them to be worked harder, but I don't think they are designed for varied height adjustment ala the 4 notch setup of our current 5100's. Of course I could be wrong.
CplTurner
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Thanks wbdriver !! Great info!
crackiswack
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So what, you still paid a premium for that suspension. People buy cars for various reasons, and saying you leave is stock because the dude already bought it and wants some more height makes no sense. Once you own it, you should mod it however you want, it happens with almost every model of offroad/trail team tacoma/fj that you pay a premium for. It is what it is. Some people want to pay for the hype of a TRD Pro, if every one of them kept them stock that would be awfully boring. If the dude isn't happy with the way his truck is, he should mod it. The majority of the 4runners on this forum are mall crawlers that could have been just fine on stock suspension, plenty of trail editions get sold because they like the look better than the SR5. People shouldn't be coming into a thread and telling a guy who bought a TRD Pro what he's doing is wrong and a waste of money
