Newbie with a bunch of ???s. Please help.

[stimps]

Hi all,

Newbie to these forums but I have had my 2001 T4R SR5, black, for about 5 years now. I think its time to give it a more agressive look. Everything else will remain stock.

I was reading a lot of threads about lifts and tires size....etc. Most of the threads had a lot of information about the newer 4th gens. Nothing really focused to 3rd gens. Except maybe those extensive threads about the Land Cruiser springs being 8 or 7 coils and the actualy lift you get. A little too advanced for me.

I was thinking about a 2-2.5" lift. Then some black wheels to match my black T4R.

- Cornfed 2.5" front, 2" rear spacers.
(Dont think im going to be off-roading too often or too rugged of terrain.)

How much of an actual lift would that give me? I mean with the weight of the engine in front and plus about 50+ lbs of stereo equipment in the rear.

On to the tires.
Alright so stock I have 265/70r16. I want to get some either 16X8 or 15X8. Then maybe 275/75 r16 or r15 or maybe even 275/80 with some all terrian tires. I want something where I can hit the trails for some light fun yet be able to drive on the highways without any difference from stock.

Does anyone know how tall the T4R would be afterwards? I need to clear 6'8" to get to my parking garage at work.

I know I asked a lot of questions but I really am new to all this but have been interested in doing this for a while. And hopefully, doing this without breaking the bank too.

If anyone could help me out that would be great. It seems like there are some really knowledgable 3rd Gen owners as members. I would really appreciate any insight.

Thanks,
Stimps

 

[stimps]

I read some other threads that I found about tires and wheels.

So, it looks like the common size for tires is 31X10.50R15.

With these tires and the lift how tall would car be?

Looks like the top brands for tires are Nittos, Bridgestone, or BFG.

 

[stimps]

I looked at some rims and what size rim would be needing for the size of tire that I mentioned above.

15x8?
15x9?
15x10?

Thanks.

 

[lee]

Hi all,

Newbie to these forums but I have had my 2001 T4R SR5, black, for about 5 years now. I think its time to give it a more agressive look. Everything else will remain stock.

I was reading a lot of threads about lifts and tires size....etc. Most of the threads had a lot of information about the newer 4th gens. Nothing really focused to 3rd gens. Except maybe those extensive threads about the Land Cruiser springs being 8 or 7 coils and the actualy lift you get. A little too advanced for me.

I was thinking about a 2-2.5" lift. Then some black wheels to match my black T4R.

- Cornfed 2.5" front, 2" rear spacers.
(Dont think im going to be off-roading too often or too rugged of terrain.)

How much of an actual lift would that give me? I mean with the weight of the engine in front and plus about 50+ lbs of stereo equipment in the rear.

On to the tires.
Alright so stock I have 265/70r16. I want to get some either 16X8 or 15X8. Then maybe 275/75 r16 or r15 or maybe even 275/80 with some all terrian tires. I want something where I can hit the trails for some light fun yet be able to drive on the highways without any difference from stock.

Does anyone know how tall the T4R would be afterwards? I need to clear 6'8" to get to my parking garage at work.

I know I asked a lot of questions but I really am new to all this but have been interested in doing this for a while. And hopefully, doing this without breaking the bank too.

If anyone could help me out that would be great. It seems like there are some really knowledgable 3rd Gen owners as members. I would really appreciate any insight.

Thanks,
Stimps

welcome.

with a spacer lift you will get whats advertised.. with a coil lift it can vary.

spacers are just solid pucks that push the truck up from the top of the coil... so you go up pretty close to exactly what the spacer's size is.

with coils, theyre often higher than advertised, so that they can settle down to what is advertised if not a bit lower.

best scenario for you would be to decide what size tires you want and rims you want first. then do a lift to clear them.

that way you can also just measure your t4r's height now, add in the spacer height, then add the height of the tires.

 

[bflooks]

here's a cheap spacer lift for you:

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=78974


that will give you 2.5" all around on top of whatever you are sitting at currently.



also, if you have 16" wheels stock, then there are only about 2 options out there to run the 15" wheels. stick with the 16's for simplicity.

265/75's will fit with NO rubbing or fitment issues at all, and you can run them on stock wheels and backspacing.

i just did 2.5" spacers up front with OME 891 coils out back with diff drop and panhard drop bracket. i am going to be running 16" ProComp 97 series wheels in a 3.75" backspacing so i can fit 285/75/16 TrXus M/T tires with NO rubbing issues on the frame rails or upper A-arms.

 

[brick privy]

you can run 31x10.50R15 tires on 8, 9 or 10 inch rims. it depends on what you want (i've even seen them on 7 inch rims to squish them up for a spare). the 10 inch rim will make the tires look wider and handle better on the street. but you're more likely to curb your rims or pop a bead. the 8 inch rims will make the tire protect the rims and will hold the bead better, but they won't handle as good. the squished tire will ride a little smoother too because the side walls won't be strait up and down. the 9 inch falls in the middle.

 

[greasefingers]

I took all my badges off

 

[greasefingers]

I just realized that I posted the above in the wrong thread. Sorry guys.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=41848&highlight=tundra+lift

This is a nice alternative to the OME and others and offers a nice street ride but gives nice off roadability all in one package.

Yotatech caters to more of the 3rd gen crowd and has more of a focus on off road and you won't see any Runners with 20"+ wheels over there.

 

[stimps]

Thanks for all the responses.

When do would you need a "diff drop and panhard drop bracket"?

What are they?

Thanks for the 411 on those Daystars at Yotatech. I'll probably talk to the member to get more details about his set.

What's the consensus on Daystars compared to other spacers?

Thanks

 

[stimps]

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=41848&highlight=tundra+lift

This is a nice alternative to the OME and others and offers a nice street ride but gives nice off roadability all in one package.

Yotatech caters to more of the 3rd gen crowd and has more of a focus on off road and you won't see any Runners with 20"+ wheels over there.

I actually read through that thread and it confused the crap out of me, too complicated. I just want to keep it simple.

 

[bflooks]

okay...let me see if i can help.

diff drop and panhard drop:

when lifting a 4runner with ifs, any lift will put strain on the cv axle joints. that is just part of lifting and having ifs. to help solve this problem, sonoransteel.com and 4crawler.com have a diff drop spacer. what it does is give you longer bolts with 1 or 1.5 inch washers that spaces the front of the FRONT diff down. this relieves some of the angle off the cv's and spreads it out across the whole front end. cost: $30'ish delivered suggested for anything over 2-2.5" of front lift.


when lifting a 4runner with 3 link rear suspension, there is the 2 track bars that run front to back and you can see them in front of the rear wheels and mount to the frame near the rear doors. those are 2 of the 3 points. the this is a later trac bar that goes left to right with the rear axle. this is the third point. it is this bar that gets thrown our of alligment when lifting the rear. what it does is keep the rear axle centered under the truck. when you lift it, you increase the angle and it therefor pulls the axle to the passenger side. in order to keep everything centered, sonoransteel developed the drop bracket. it just brings the mounting hole back down to accomodate the 2.5" of lift most people do. this allows that bar to act as normal by returning it to it's stock angle. his website has picutures to show what i am talking about.

http://sonoransteel.com/store_drop_bracket.html

 

[RunnerUp]

i vote OME, best ride and set up without worrying about compressing your springs with a spacer kit, its a 2.5" kit and afterwards you would just be able to clear a 33x11.50, or a 285/75. i would stick with 16" wheels, esp. if you are lifting it, as 15;s just look weird to me.

 

[bflooks]

and for the confusing thread....let's break it down like this.

what's your budget? what are you going to be doing? what's your mechanical skill?


tundra coil swap gives you a smooth ride and lifts you about 1-1.5" up front. you can use spacers on top to lift you to 2-2.5".

spacers stiffen the ride a bit, but are cheaper usually. they also allow for use of stock shocks. for my install, the spacers made the steering crisp, not stiff.


out back you can do land cruiser coils (3-4" of lift), OME (2.5'ish " of lift), or spacers (based on size you get).

OME is great stuff. i have the 891's, and for $135 shipped new, i wish i had done it earlier. they are progressive rate and much thicker than stock. nice ride.

LC's are tall! but give a nice ride, but none the less are stock parts, and can wear down and sag a bit if a lot of weight or towing is done. price varies.

BOTH OME AND LC COILS REQUIRE LONGER SHOCKS.

Spacers are cheap, and are run on top of what is already there. so, if it is sagging, then you are just patching the problem, and the rear will not act much differently when loaded. however, you CAN run stock shocks with these.

 

[stimps]

what's your budget? what are you going to be doing?
I dont plan to do too much off-roading and plus its a daily driver, so keeping this to a minimum would be good, around $1000 with tires and with wheels maybe $1500.

what's your mechanical skill?
I've lowered several cars but never lifted any. So, I do know a little bit about how to take out the struts/shocks, exhaust, headers, and other things that import racers would normally be able to do. And luckily I grew out of that phase, pretty crazy back in the days. Now I look at it as being lucky after driving so eratically.

Basically, I want to fit bigger tires/wheels. Go on small trails without having to worry.

 

[bflooks]

i have front daystar 2.5" spacers, front diff spacer, rear OME891's, panhard drop bracket, and i am waiting on the wheels to come in (backorder). they are procomp 87 series, 16x8 with 3.75" backspacing and 33"trXus m/t for about $1500 delivered.

however, if you pick up the daystar kit for $165, add about $100 total for the diff and panhard drops, and then tires and wheels...and you can be done for about a grand. but it's what you want/need.

just search and ask for feedback on each setup, etc.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

what's your budget? what are you going to be doing?
I dont plan to do too much off-roading and plus its a daily driver, so keeping this to a minimum would be good, around $1000 with tires and with wheels maybe $1500.

what's your mechanical skill?
I've lowered several cars but never lifted any. So, I do know a little bit about how to take out the struts/shocks, exhaust, headers, and other things that import racers would normally be able to do. And luckily I grew out of that phase, pretty crazy back in the days. Now I look at it as being lucky after driving so eratically.

Basically, I want to fit bigger tires/wheels. Go on small trails without having to worry.

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=61223

This is a deal and you can pick the ride you want with the combo of shocks and coils.
Even if you paid somebody toi install and get an alignment you'll still be well under $1000 even at the regualr kit cost which is about $650.