Nitto Ridge Grappler C & E Load Help

[MAST4R]

Thanks! It was two holes straight through the tread, wasn't even on the sidewall lol, just the road up to crown king too lol

i also despise airing down, i'm that impatient lol

On the main road to Crown King? Lol, that's absolutely hilarious. Had no issues with the Wildpeaks on the Backaway though I don't do optional stuff either.

I drove a stock Subaru Tribeca through the Senator Hwy on Sumitomo HTR Sport tires right after the snow was melted a decade ago with no issues as well as Bloody Basin, the Apache trail, and some others of the like before switching to Toyo Open Country AT II.

In my calculations above, I forgot to add the Sumitomo mileage.

So, make it almost 5,000 miles on P-metric tires off pavement for me.

 

[Kenstaroni]

I think you mean 285 they dont make a 295/70 in C...

Correct sorry, 285's were C's then went back to a 295 in load E

 

[WRM1]

I put E rated 265/70 17 Nitto Terra Grappler G2's on my 2010 Trail a year ago after the Michelin on the left rear blew out the entire sidewall on a smooth road with no debris. 10,000 miles later, they ride great and mpg is the same as the Michelins. I went to Discount Tire yesterday for a rotation and balance, and they found a nail in one that I had not noticed. Tech said they balanced very easily. My miles are all over, from a 1200 mile round trip to Arkansas towing a 6x12 Uhaul for Scout Summer Camp(with a road to the camp that was tough, several miles of gravel and very steep - no problems at all), several trips towing the troop's 7x14 trailer, and a variety of other trips. No issues in teh rain or with braking.

 

[rlarroque]

No issues balancing

Thanks for the replies. Think I am leaning toward load C, but we shall see. The E load being harder to balance is a negative that never occurred to me.

I haven't had any issues balancing the tires and I have the E load version of these. They didn't have C when I made my purchase. Every place I go to has been able to balance the tires with no problem at all.

 

[mteolus]

P load vs E load. Different carcasses though.

I run C load BFGs 285s. Same ones I saw on rental Jeep Rubicons in Ouray run off road every day. Main reason for purchasing is the lower weight and BFGs use the equivalent of Kevlar in the sidewalls, they just can't call it Kevlar. So said the BFG guy. Seems to be a bit of a challenge to balance though.

 

[MAST4R]

P load vs E load. Different carcasses though.

I run C load BFGs 285s. Same ones I saw on rental Jeep Rubicons in Ouray run off road every day. Main reason for purchasing is the lower weight and BFGs use the equivalent of Kevlar in the sidewalls, they just can't call it Kevlar. So said the BFG guy. Seems to be a bit of a challenge to balance though.

Yeah, I know. And the LTC KO2s don't weigh much, which is great.

I don't think there is a single best solution, It all depends on personal use and terrain. Since we cover the ground from the Mexico to the Canada borders, tires with poor road manners are out of the question. But by the same token, since we drive AZ desert terrain which is much harsher than anything around Ouray, I still need a reliable tire and/or mode of use. Tough mix.

I do understand that C-load is the best compromise for many folks in many places but for me, it is either a P that does well in rain on road and has solid shoulder protectors (like the Wildpeaks I have) or a 3-ply sidewall tire that is not E load. The latter really means some of the LTC offerings in 255 75 17s or 265 70 17 LTD KO2. LTC KO2 just does not strike the right balance for me (I have had LTD KO2).

Of course, I could keep Wildpeaks for out-of-state (no issues in Moab or Montana) and get a second set of wheels and tires for AZ something like Discoverer Maxx (my commute is not an issue) but I really want to avoid going back to two sets of wheels and tires. For now, lol.

 

[DannyLlama]

Any updates on this thread from everyone who put in C or E load?

 

[tm965]

Any updates on this thread from everyone who put in C or E load?

I've had 285/70/17 c loads on mine for approx 20k miles and they seem to be wearing well and I expect at least another 20-30k out of them. They do get noisier after the first 5-7k miles after the tiered layer of the tread pattern begins to wear down. no other issues to report. i did think i had balancing problems with them for a while, but it turned out to be bad LCA bushings causing cabin vibrations and steering wheel shimmy. Thankfully those issues are completely gone now.

Ive also picked up a couple of screws and a nail in the tires over those 20k miles and none punctured which was pleasantly surprising.

 

[comtn4x4]

Any updates on this thread from everyone who put in C or E load?

I have run both, C in 285/75/17 and E in 305/70/17

Bottom line, the RG's have their positives, however I didn't feel they were stand out performers over other tires I have run. The 285's were better by far than the 305's. Although I had problems from get go with the 305's in that one was horribly out of round and gave me death wobble at about 65 mph. I put 38,000 miles on the 285's and about 5,000 on the 305's.
Dry road manners were solid on both. Reasonably quiet. Didn't get hit too hard on MPG's.
Wet roads were just ok. Better with the 285's than 305's. I think the increased load rating didn't play well with the 4Runners weight. (Keep in mind my rig is quite heavy)
Icy Roads just ok on both. They would break loose starting from a stop and in corners. I had to run 4 Hi in all ice or snow situations where normally I'd only switch to 4 Hi if it was bad. I've had much better performance from other tires
Snow and deep snow were pretty good although again I've had better from other tires. (BFG KO2 and Duratrac) Siping was virtually gone by 38,000 miles on the 285's with only 2/3 the tread worn.
Colorado/Arizona/Utah/New Mexico Trails performance was good although again not better than others. Had to air the 305's down much further to get similar performance off road.
Mud we don't get much of here. What little I ran through was not an issue.
So overall a mediocre tire. say B-/C+.
I'd have to say that it's strongest suit is it's a good looking tire. I think there's a couple other AT tires that are similar and better: Cooper AT3 LTX, Cooper ST MAXX, Mickey Thompson ATZ P3, and Falken A/T3W.

 

[Bergz]

I switched from e-load K02's to c-load RG's (285/70/17) and wish I would have started with the RG's. The e-loads were super harsh around town and just way too hard/rough for everyday use, even when aired down to 28-30. The c-load RG's are MUCH nicer around town and have been excellent off road. Also, there are plenty of folks on here that have noted a bad experience with RG's in snowy/rainy conditions over the years. However, I also read somewhere on here that Nitto changed the compound a year or so ago (?) and those issues are mostly corrected. I never did research or double check that, btw.. However, I've had mine for 9k miles/11 months and they have been fantastic in snow/rain/dirt/mud etc all over the Colorado back country.

 

[TRUSTYAXE]

I switched from e-load K02's to c-load RG's (285/70/17) and wish I would have started with the RG's. The e-loads were super harsh around town and just way too hard/rough for everyday use, even when aired down to 28-30. The c-load RG's are MUCH nicer around town and have been excellent off road. Also, there are plenty of folks on here that have noted a bad experience with RG's in snowy/rainy conditions over the years. However, I also read somewhere on here that Nitto changed the compound a year or so ago (?) and those issues are mostly corrected. I never did research or double check that, btw.. However, I've had mine for 9k miles/11 months and they have been fantastic in snow/rain/dirt/mud etc all over the Colorado back country.

What PSI are you running your 285 C RG's. My trucks not a daily driver anymore and I'm liking 30psi, 33 and the ride was a little rough on bumpy roads.

 

[tm965]

What PSI are you running your 285 C RG's. My trucks not a daily driver anymore and I'm liking 30psi, 33 and the ride was a little rough on bumpy roads.

i run 35 front and 34 rear--handles better, mpgs are increased slightly, and wears better. while it rode better in the 30-32 psi range, mine seemed more sluggish and i definitely noticed faster wear around the edges of the tire.

 

[TRUSTYAXE]

i run 35 front and 34 rear--handles better, mpgs are increased slightly, and wears better. while it rode better in the 30-32 psi range, mine seemed more sluggish and i definitely noticed faster wear around the edges of the tire.

Got it, I might try dialing them back up a few PSI as I removed my poly sway bar bushings, great for turning on the road but I think they diminished the suspensions performance on the ruff stuff.

 

[janoslc]

Hi

What do you think about P metric version?
Too weak ?

I do off road every weekend
Sand dunes and few sharp rocks. Dirt...

Hot climate. So never in Snow and mud

I am trying to find the lightest option Load C or SL ?
Dont know if SL are weak


Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro

 

[Decipher]

Nitto Ridge Grappler C & E Load Help

Hi

What do you think about P metric version?
Too weak ?

I do off road every weekend
Sand dunes and few sharp rocks. Dirt...

Hot climate. So never in Snow and mud

I am trying to find the lightest option Load C or SL ?
Dont know if SL are weak


Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro

I’ve off roaded plenty with SL Wildpeaks and never had an issue. I always had, however, fear in the back of my mind that I compromised too much when I was out on the trail. Once I changed to LR-Cs I never looked back. E is overkill for our rigs. It just is. Load range C is perfect. It still offers a comfortable on road ride and compliance while giving you peace of mind on the trail that you’re not running a vulnerable tire.

For those who only occasionally run their rig off road, SL may be fine. It never let me down and I wheeled hard. I can tell you, however, that you don’t want that nagging thought in your head when you’re in the middle of nowhere.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Ron Burgandy]

i switch to E load on everything I own. the ride quality is negligible. your tires take the most abuse of anything on your rig, why cheap out? IMO overkill is worth it when it comes to tires.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

 

[richsd]

Get the tire you'll need for the worst road you'll drive

I have Nitto Terra Grappler G2 LT265/70R17 E rated on my stock TRD-Pro because I often go into remote areas of Utah and Arizona alone and like to think I'm much less likely to get a flat with E rated. When I ran with the original P265s I too often decided not to explore a road that looked interesting because of the sharp rocks I might encounter. The Nitto E tires ride just a little rougher than the P tires on pavement and quite a bit rougher on fire roads, desert tracks and such. So If I'm going to be riding any distance on these roads I have to air down. Surprisingly, I get better gas mileage with the E tires when doing a lot of highway driving with few stops: 19-21 mpg with my truck loaded with gear and a cargo box on top. I think it may have something to do with the weight of the tires (49 lbs) and the high tire pressure, 43 psi advised by Nitto for these tires on a 4Runner.

 

[grumpy02]

FWIW I have run Pathfinder All Terrain C rated tires for over 100K miles on both a 1st gen Taco (most of the miles) & now a 4th gen T4R with probably 15-20% off road. NM, CO, AZ, UT. Everything from graded FS roads to some fairly hard trails in Moab, Sonoran Desert, Ouray Teeluride, etc. Sometimes aired down, sometimes not. Never had a puncture or sidewall damage. Very good traction in snow, on wet roads & off road including beach & dunes type sand.