I am bout to pull the trigger on some new shoes, i,ve compared any and all tires imaginable, but for my application with my 4runner i dont see the need in Mud terrains, so i have strayed away from terra grapplers from the beginning. But they seemed to be the best bang for my buck. I would like to get as much reviews from people who run these or have run these and other all terrains, on and off road in all conditions, i hunt alot and i am in the woods year around but i dont want a Mud terrain.