Off-roading Tips

OEX recommends using the HLJ with a wheel lift attachment. I'm guessing someone here has used a similar setup.



http://www.overlandexperts.com/docs/overland_experts_suggested_recovery_gear_list.pdf



Maybe somebody can explain how that would be of any use to change a flat, lifting the wheel with the flat - then what?
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Get a real shovel

I'm a strong believer that a hi-lift jack is unnecessary for 99% of the off-roading population. <snip>

I would add a collapsible shovel to your list. Get one with a serrated edge. You can cut tree limbs and make your own traction mats with branches (for mud or snow)

I'm with you on the hi-lift, although now that I know of its use as a winch, well, that could be useful.

And find room for a full length shovel. It really makes the digging easier.

Finally, don't forget to crack open a road soda and check out the surrounding area. You might find some place really interesting, stopping where you wouldn't normally.
 
Good stuff here. I was just putzing around some old logging roads near me, had no recovery gear at all. About 30 minutes into the woods I realized I might be making a mistake, especially seeing as how it's Bigfoot territory.

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Do not use a shackle to connect two straps. The shackle can become a deadly projectile. Use a piece of wood like this.

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forgive me, I could find a new post to type some comments about my 4runner limited - wheels and tires

I purchased 2015 Toyota 4runner limited6 months ago. I asked sale rep if this suv is able to drive - off road. She said Yes. 6 months later - I learned that my limited suv is not fitting for off road bec of tires - 245/60/20 and luxury. I wish I could buy 4runner trail, but I was wondering if I could buy other wheels and tires for off road? Please share your experience with me. Thanks

Your post was a long time ago and not sure anyone answered. Most 4Runners come new with Passenger-rated tires. And, yes, you can turn that Limited into a pretty doggone functional offroad vehicle with the addition of better tires (and perhaps a lift). It's actually pretty capable right out of the box!

Good luck and good trucking.
 
Recovery Anchor

I have not used this yet but hope to demo it the next time I have it on hand and go camping. There are very information videios on their Facebook as well as on their kickstarter website:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deadmanoffroad/deadman-the-worlds-most-versatile-off-road-recover

https://www.facebook.com/DeadmanLLC/
You can use this product just about anywhere in hopefully and sort of senario. I've backed them on a pledge because I feel like this would be a great product to use if you are solo or with others but need to anchor off just about anything around you. I hope that somebody finds this helpful/useful and can get in on this what seems to be a great product.
 
Good tips eh know the terrain and if in doubt get out and walk on the terrain and see if you sink or feel any movement if u think you can get through g9 f9r it


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I thought I would give some insight on modifications for your 4x4! These are based on personal experience and listening to fellow 4x4ers who have been doing this a LONG time.

First modification should be the ability to get yourself UN-stuck! To start with, this means reliable tow points, front and rear on the vehicle. Sometimes factory tow points are ok, on some rigs you may need to add these.

Then you will want to buy a tow or "snatch" strap. Get the kind with loops on both ends and some "D" rings for hooking them up. I keep mine in a bag along with my winch gloves and a short piece of chain. (More on the chain later)

Continuing on with getting unstuck, the next "cheapest" unstuck device is a HI LIFT Jack! They are called farm jacks for a reason, they have been using them forever! You can literally use it as a winch and pull yourself out 48-60" at a time if nothing else!

Read up on how to use and MAINTAIN them properly. You will see lots of "cool rigs" who leave their Hi-Lift mounted outside their rig all year long without any cover over the mechanics. These are usually the same guys whose Hi-Lift levers get stuck, have to "hit them" with a rock to move, etc... Keep it lubed, and stored properly. They have some nice plastic molded cases you can get for them now, or covers, or mine stays in the garage unless I am taking a trip, and I lube/check it before loading up.

CHAINS ARE dangerous, please do not use them as a strap, because it literally could turn into a life/death situation, especially crappy non-rated chain. They have ratings just like bolts, straps, ropes, etc.

With that in mind, I STILL carry about a 6' chain with the "links" for hooking them together in my GO bag. The reason is..some of these rigs suspensions are so flexy, even my 60" hi-lift cannot get them off the ground. So instead, I loop the chain around the frame/axle, holding them together, THEN I am able to jack it up a MUCH shorter distance to get a wheel off the ground. (Lower = SAFER too!!) I have seen rachet straps used the same way with great success, chain is just what I have used.

Ok...final thought for today is this....bigger lifts and bigger tires and lockers all usually mean you can go MORE places and get stuck "deeper" in the woods than before!! :)

My #1 mod before ANY LIFT or bigger tires or lockers is a winch. We call it the "Warn Locker", the most imporant locker of them all. It will save you body damage, keep you safe, allow you to "walk" up something too hard to drive over safely, etc.

Buy a brand name winch...even if this means waiting another 2-3 months of saving up your cash, you will curse that cheap "chinese/generic" junk when it conks out on you 1/2 way up the gully and you have to get someone ELSE to winch you up/down. I have owned both Ramsey and Warn and like em both. (Look at the WINCH SAVER product, saves your winch cable/gives you a nice weight on the line, etc)

Another winch line tip...don't do the "hook it to the D ring on your bumper" and winch tight thing. If you do this any length of time you have just created the breaking point on your cable! That "bend" is a kink/weak spot, you are much better off to use that winch saver or just winch in VERY carefully with just the hook sticking straight out of the fairlead.

I hope that helps, I have been taking out new 4x4 owners for about 6 years now, hitting the trails for the first time and this is the same advice our club gives them. I cannot tell you how many of them have gotten addicted to the hobby and have gone on to build huge rigs!!

Sam Hinton

Forgive my newness to 4x4ing. When you say ensure reliable tow points front and rear, do you mean installing some? I'm not sure what that means. Like different bumpers?
Sorry, I literally have very little mechanical experience, but I am trying to learn as much as I can.
Cheers!
 
Forgive my newness to 4x4ing. When you say ensure reliable tow points front and rear, do you mean installing some? I'm not sure what that means. Like different bumpers?

Sorry, I literally have very little mechanical experience, but I am trying to learn as much as I can.

Cheers!



I believe Sam was referring to installing a beefier tow point on the vehicle. The factory tie downs are only there for the vehicle to be secured to the car carrier on the way to delivery at the dealership. You'll notice any tow truck driver who knows what they're doing, won't use those points to pull the vehicle onto their flat bed, they'll loop their chain around axles or suspension hard points.

That being said, when wheeling, those suspension hard points and axles may be buried in mud or entirely inaccessible due to rocks, lumber, or being under water.


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Off Roading in San Diego

Hi,
I'm a new member to the forum. Does anyone have any good spots to go off roading in San Diego?
 

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