Good job and I plan to watch it again when I do my first oil change.
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Good job and I plan to watch it again when I do my first oil change.
JEMP1003
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Has anyone had an issue removing the filter metal plug? I did my oil change yesterday, and as hard as I tried there was no way that plug was coming out without doing any damage.
I ended up just removing the hole piece and made a slight mess, replaced the large O-ring, but couldn't replace the small one.
I ended up just removing the hole piece and made a slight mess, replaced the large O-ring, but couldn't replace the small one.
This IS the BEST images there are. I had a 2007 which was the easiest oil filter change possible. On my 2014 I've changed oil a couple of times and and will now be selling it. Nothing wrong with the truck but if Toyota would allow the idiot that designed this oil filter to do what he did, I have no confidence in the rest of the truck. We already sold out Rav4 with the same filter.
1engineer
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...then you my friend know absolutely nothing about fluids and filtration. Good luck.
STX4Runner
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Exactly! Based on the placement and design of the oil filter you are selling the vehicle?? Jeez, don't ever buy any other auto brand, I'd hate to see what you do if something expensive breaks. Roll it off a mountain?
1000MPH
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Yup, you guys are the sharp ones that know everything.
Neither one of you know anything about me or my background you f___ing morons. You certainly don't respect anyone's views or what they choose to do. I've never run across such fault finders. It must difficult to be so insecure.
My new WRX has the filter up top for easy access just like that MGB. Nary a bolt, clip or panel to be removed to get to the oil plug or filter. Makes changes a snap.
Now we've had no real problems with the 4Runner. But let's be honest, they did make it a giant pain in the ass to change the oil & filter. And it was made even worse by the 'free' oil changes at the dealer where they cross threaded and ruined some of the body bolts that attach the panels. I'm in the process of replacing those and helicoiling the permanent nuts where needed.
ETA - that I would like to thank Antman and all the others who contributed to this thread. While the changes are more difficult than many, the info herein does spell it out very well.
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Antman
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1000MPH
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Oh yeah I agree it's a PITA and I curse it every time.
Just can't see the logic behind dumping the truck due to it.
I TOTALLY agr....wait...what?
sandcrawler
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discussed to death, but now buried several years deep in this very thread: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ange-5th-gen-how-lots-pics-5.html#post1085018
mnofpeace
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Thanks for the links sandcrawler...i looked thru them, and they are very interesting reads. It is what it is. And if that is the price to pay for having a solidly built, reliable, and rugged vehicle, then so be it. My old Land Rover was an easy oil change...and was a complete pain in the arse for much of my ownership, as far as reliability is concerned.
After doing the math, i purchased the Tonka during the 1st week of December 2014, by the time it needs an oil change it will be Mid-to-end of May, that's a kool 6 months. With my wife and i already owning her car, my pick-up, and my Kawi Concours, the Runner wont pick up any MORE miles in the coming 6 months.
So basically, who wouldn't love to be able to partake in only TWO oil changes a yr for a primary vehicle? I will change the oil in my bike at least 4 times between April and Oct alone.
So I'll take that for sure...skid plates and all
:high5:
After doing the math, i purchased the Tonka during the 1st week of December 2014, by the time it needs an oil change it will be Mid-to-end of May, that's a kool 6 months. With my wife and i already owning her car, my pick-up, and my Kawi Concours, the Runner wont pick up any MORE miles in the coming 6 months.
So basically, who wouldn't love to be able to partake in only TWO oil changes a yr for a primary vehicle? I will change the oil in my bike at least 4 times between April and Oct alone.
So I'll take that for sure...skid plates and all
:high5:
Ron4RNevada
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Just thought I'd add a diagram
007Tacoma
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What the?!?! (oh, and thanks for the awesome right-up)
Getting my first free oil change (at ~10,000 miles) tomorrow from the dealership - I thought "screw these guys. I always do my own oil changes". Then I thought about the 10,000 mile oil change interval, the better fuel economy, and the fact that I didn't see the oil filter right under the hood... Okay. Something besides the heads and the oil grade must be different on my 2015 4Runner's 1GR-FE than my old 2003 4Runner's 1GR-FE.
(look on T4R.org)
...seriously? that is much more of a design difference than I realized. The only more complicated oil change I have done was on my old 2004 Golf TDI (PD). Guess I will let the dealership do the first two for free, but after that I will still do my own.
(Serious, Antman, thanks for this right-up. I will need this in 8 months when I do the 30,000 miles service in my driveway.)
Getting my first free oil change (at ~10,000 miles) tomorrow from the dealership - I thought "screw these guys. I always do my own oil changes". Then I thought about the 10,000 mile oil change interval, the better fuel economy, and the fact that I didn't see the oil filter right under the hood... Okay. Something besides the heads and the oil grade must be different on my 2015 4Runner's 1GR-FE than my old 2003 4Runner's 1GR-FE.
(look on T4R.org)
...seriously? that is much more of a design difference than I realized. The only more complicated oil change I have done was on my old 2004 Golf TDI (PD). Guess I will let the dealership do the first two for free, but after that I will still do my own.
(Serious, Antman, thanks for this right-up. I will need this in 8 months when I do the 30,000 miles service in my driveway.)
T4RT
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Okay, before I change the pil in the Runner for the first time since I purchased it, I have to ask the following.
Are all 64 MM oil filter socket adapters created equally? Or should I pick up a Toyota OEM Tool (TOY640)??
I would think they would be but I have seen people online saying some fit and others want to spin slightly stripping the plastic. Just wanted to get the feed back from the collective before I go purchase one.
Edit: I keep seeing "Fits Most Toyota's" and the 4Runner is never in the list.
Thanks Guys!
Are all 64 MM oil filter socket adapters created equally? Or should I pick up a Toyota OEM Tool (TOY640)??
I would think they would be but I have seen people online saying some fit and others want to spin slightly stripping the plastic. Just wanted to get the feed back from the collective before I go purchase one.
Edit: I keep seeing "Fits Most Toyota's" and the 4Runner is never in the list.
Thanks Guys!
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cf_coder
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On the 64 mm oil filter socket, I was able to get one from AutoZone (cheapo pot metal thing) and it worked fine. The first time I changed the oil the filter carrier was on super super tight and it was tight the entire time I was unscrewing it. It was also about a quarter inch past the stop alignment point. After that first change, it's been much easier to get it on and off. So much so that I have to hold the filter carrier to unscrew the bleed bolt on the bottom, otherwise the whole thing wants to come off.
And while I'm here, Kudos to [MENTION=65614]Antman[/MENTION] for the write up. Made the entire ordeal a lot less daunting.
_coder
And while I'm here, Kudos to [MENTION=65614]Antman[/MENTION] for the write up. Made the entire ordeal a lot less daunting.
_coder
T4RT
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Thanks [MENTION=116114]cf_coder[/MENTION]. I was looking at that exact item online at Autozone. I believe I have one form a previous vehicle but I want to measure it when I get home to ensure I wont get stuck trying to remove the filter canister without a tool. My local Autozone has it in stock however they do not have any 0w20 Oil per their website. (Lets hope website is wrong) If they are out, I know Walmart across the street carries 0w20 Synthetic for sure. The dealership I purchased the truck from used last year put conventional in it when they did their 60 point inspection. I watched them change it to synthetic oil and ensured they put the oil cover back on correctly changing the gaskets. They were surprised I was giving them instructions on how to change my oil in a car I just purchased. Hopefully it wont be hard to get off.
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Hawaiian4runner
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No. Don't get the cheapo thin metal one. I got a cheapo Private Brands one on eBay. Thick metal with slots for the filter housing tabs. The slots are very important as the filter housing is super tight and the cheapo thin metal ones distort and spin. The Toyota oil filter wrench is just ridiculously priced and I could not imagine it is any better than the Private Brands one.
Whiplash Willy
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I got the Assenmacher Toy640 filter wrench, and it does fit the housing well. The problem with it though, is it gets stuck on the filter housing each time I use it, and is kind of a PITA to get off.
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