On my way to an interview in my daily driver,......ball joint failure

[octanejunkie]

I agree with all this except I'll do mine around 100k miles. If you Google image LBJ failure you will find quite a bit stock failures. I believe most failures are on stock since way less lifted rigs on the road. We see more lifted failures here because we are on a forum dedicated more to modified vehicles.

Do together with the timing belt, if possible

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[JayRolla]

Do together with the timing belt, if possible

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I think I'm still on the original. Lol. 280k miles

 

[TonyB66]

Might there be any date of mfg indications on the LBJ?

 

[phattyduck]

Bottom line, change them around 75k miles if the truck is stock (if that is the wrong mileage someone can correct me).

I changed mine at ~270k miles and they were still serviceable. 2WD with a fair amount of dirt roads (not as much as most guys on here, but more than most 2WD 4Runners!). Stock height and the small tires (stock 225/75-15's) probably kept them happy.

I'd venture that 200k is a good number for street driven stock height/tire trucks. 50k or 100k for lifted 4WD's.

-Charlie

 

[1985taylor1925]

I agree with all this except I'll do mine around 100k miles. If you Google image LBJ failure you will find quite a bit stock failures. I believe most failures are on stock since way less lifted rigs on the road. We see more lifted failures here because we are on a forum dedicated more to modified vehicles.

That is a valid point. Have look at all the variables. But chances are most of those stock failures you see around the web are again on lbjs with REALLY high mileage. My point is still that failures are non existent on stock trucks until they get up to really high mileage, where they should have been changed as maintenance already. All though I never would have known about the lbj failures if I hadn’t joined the forum 7+ years ago. The avererage person who just drives their t4r and doesn’t get ocd about maintenance and mods basically thinks “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.

Does anyone know the actual factory interval for replacing the lbjs, if there is one? I thought I remember reading 75k

 

[3bears]

soccer mom/dads and city streets,,mall crusing,looking tough,or a country child hitting "pot " holes and back roads
apples to oranges
city slickers are going to get a lot more miles then me

 

[Scramble]

That is a valid point. Have look at all the variables. But chances are most of those stock failures you see around the web are again on lbjs with REALLY high mileage. My point is still that failures are non existent on stock trucks until they get up to really high mileage, where they should have been changed as maintenance already. All though I never would have known about the lbj failures if I hadn’t joined the forum 7+ years ago. The avererage person who just drives their t4r and doesn’t get ocd about maintenance and mods basically thinks “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.

Does anyone know the actual factory interval for replacing the lbjs, if there is one? I thought I remember reading 75k

I'm pretty sure there is no interval recommended. Like any other car it should be replaced when it has play. But we know better with this design. I agree with Jay, every 100k seems good.

 

[octanejunkie]

I think I'm still on the original. Lol. 280k miles

I changed mine at 240K-ish and suspect they were original

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[TonyB66]

I changed mine at 240K-ish and suspect they were original.

Mike, so I guess you don't recall any production year marks or indications?

 

[animator]

I changed mine at 240K-ish and suspect they were original

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I changed mine at slightly less mileage, and know for a fact the only time they were previously changed was during the recall in '02 or '03, long before it even had 30k on it.

They were nearly as tight as my new ones. But all my mileage is highway miles, with stock suspension, and very little off-road use.

 

[3bears]

I'm pretty sure there is no interval recommended. Like any other car it should be replaced when it has play. But we know better with this design. I agree with Jay, every 100k seems good.

thing is ,,,,,I have not discovered play until too late
that was in my taco...im not pushing this rig that far

 

[kfriede]

Ouch, glad you came out okay.

Like most others are saying, there could be more we're not seeing, but overall seems like you're not too terrible.

LBJ - Go OEM
UCA - I have no opinion on OEM vs Aftermarket
CV - Rebuild or go OEM
Tie Rod Ends - Aftermarket

I just did my LBJ (do both sides!) and followed the guide here followed the guide here. Overall not a terrible job, except that my tie rod ends wouldn't break for shit. Autozone loan-a-tool 27276 helped with the TRE, and 27016 helped for the LBJ.

 

[Atomic6]

But did you get the internship???

 

[Kanoe]

I'm going to be the odd one out again.

I changed mine at 125,000 km, or under 80,000 miles. One of them had noticeable play when testing as per the manual. They were original and mine is bone stock.

We were heading to Mexico so out they came. Perhaps mine would have been one of the low mileage failures if I hadn't checked. Got them cheap from Camelback when they used to ship to Canada.

 

[Scramble]

thing is ,,,,,I have not discovered play until too late
that was in my taco...im not pushing this rig that far

Mine had zero play but changed them in 2015 @ 153K. I was so paranoid driving around on them from this site. Every time I hit a pot hole I was waiting for the wheel to fall off. LOL

 

[RAD4Runner]

I'm pretty sure there is no interval recommended. ... I agree with Jay, every 100k seems good.

Most of you, guys, on this post won a 3rd Gen. Do you know if your FSM, user's manual OR some tech bulletin recommends frequency of replacement? If not, 75K to 100K, based on feedback here seems to be a good interval. Again, depending on individual owner's tolerance for risk, and how he used his truck.

Like any other car it should be replaced when it has play. But we know better with this design.

I believe many owners who had theirs fail did not see any play, just like we did not see any on my friend's about a month before it failed.
MSDOS401, did you see any play before this happened?

 

[irocz281990]

Update

Hello, Adam here (MSDOS) brother, figured after reading this thread on the forum I would give an update, so we finally were able to get her situated in my garage I am going to take a crack at it this weekend. I appreciate all of the tips in the forum!

Also included what is usually in the garage

 

[MSDOS401]

But did you get the internship???

No unfortunately as couldn't make the interview.

 

[MSDOS401]

Update 2

Hey guys I figured you would be interested in an update. So my brother and I have begun repairs, due to to time constraints we decided to go with aftermarket parts from Webber's in Montebello. They are MOOG, we are replacing the driver side UBJ, and both driver and passengers side LBJ's along with the driver side CV axle. Getting that damn "Tulip" off was a *****. We quit tonight because we have to go get the old UBJ pressed out.

 

[MSDOS401]

Most of you, guys, on this post won a 3rd Gen. Do you know if your FSM, user's manual OR some tech bulletin recommends frequency of replacement? If not, 75K to 100K, based on feedback here seems to be a good interval. Again, depending on individual owner's tolerance for risk, and how he used his truck.



I believe many owners who had theirs fail did not see any play, just like we did not see any on my friend's about a month before it failed.
MSDOS401, did you see any play before this happened?

I never really checked, didn't really know about it and didn't know how until now.