painting rims/ question on thoroughness

[infamousRNR]

1st: thanks for NOT telling me to go read a paint your rim thread because all i do is troll this website and I've read all the painting threads...

just curious how thorough i need to be on the chips and dings on the rim...


I'm starting to sand with 220 and i feel like i am going to end up sanding everything until its all shiny metal... not just scuffed so the paint will stick,...

def going to use etching primer... so when i do that,,, should i spray then sand again more than once?

also,,,, what should i do about the inside of the rim>???

it looks so bad... maybe just cleaning it (with what product????) with something instead if sanding inside there?....
or should i even bother with the inside?


thanks for the input guys on what you think i should do..


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[Bt08231]

First, spray the front of the rim with aircraft stripper. It will remove EVERYTHING, and u will be glad you did. Second, stop sanding and get yourself a wire wheel attachment for a drill.

Trust me, I've done it twice, 8 rims, both ways and the wire wheel is way faster and probably more thorough at scuffing the surface for the paint to stick. 3 light coats of self etching primer and 3 light coats of paint and they will look amazing.

 

[infamousRNR]

First, spray the front of the rim with aircraft stripper. It will remove EVERYTHING, and u will be glad you did. Second, stop sanding and get yourself a wire wheel attachment for a drill.

Trust me, I've done it twice, 8 rims, both ways and the wire wheel is way faster and probably more thorough at scuffing the surface for the paint to stick. 3 light coats of self etching primer and 3 light coats of paint and they will look amazing.

Any fine or corse wire wheel will work?...

Just pour the aircraft stripper all over?

Thanks for the suggestion

 

[infamousRNR]

Would this work?

And wire wheel for front or back?....

 

[SilverRidgeRunner1]

To cover your question on the back I would clean up just around the lug nut area were the rim meets the hub.. I've had vibration happen when rust builds up there.

 

[infamousRNR]

So it sounds like I can wire wheel the whole rim front and back?..

AFter the aircraft stripper... Wire wheel the rim...

 

[infamousRNR]

Would this work?...

I can't find aircraft stripper... At least with that technical term..



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[infamousRNR]

It seems like the wire wheel is scratching up the surface WAY too much.. I can get my finger nail in the little groves.....


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[BrianSD_42]

It may be a good idea to use that wire brush on the center back of the rim just to clean off some of that crud.

Be sure to wear glasses (not trying to mother you but I was almost blinded in one eye once by a grinding wheel brush doing something similar). Those little wires fly loose every minute or so when using the brush.

The way I did it, as documented here in my thread that you already read
---> http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...licolor-3rd-gen-wheel-painting-how-story.html

Was that I first used 3M steel scratch pad and soap to strip all the black junk and dust off via a little elbow grease and some DAWN Kitchen Detergent (its legit). This left me with mostly clean wheels. If you need to, after that cleaning then use the brush.

I would not worry about sanding the inside of the wheels very hard and certainly don't waste the time to make it look nice on the inside. Just remove the dirt and grime and lightly sand it.

For the center of the wheels, in all those crevices after you use the grinding brush then use sand paper (150 or 250) to clean it out even better. I just folder the paper small and used my hands.

Should you sand the entire outside of the wheel and then again with smoother sand paper? I would say NO. Just sand down the that are scratched up. This should greatly reduce the chance of it looking like curb rash. Remember you are not going for showroom quality here. A little dip or edge here or there is fine and the paint will fill in a lot, especially if you are like me and do 2x primer, then 2x+ paint then a coat of clear.

Once you have the harsh edges or curb scratches sanded down I would just 3M pad it all again (if needed) and then call it good. There may still be some paint or powder coating left but if should all be scuffed up and sanded a bit by the 3M pad. That 3M pad will do a great amount of scuffing and make it ready for the priming stage.

Should you paint the inside of the wheel? If it is the wrong color or just metal then I would paint the inside of the wheel a black or dark grey primer.

Next when you start working on the good side you will, after a few coats be able to see the parts on the back of the wheel where some paint drifted through. I lifted up the wheel and painted only those small parts on the inside of the wheel that are visible from the street.

I hope that helps. As mentioned in my thread - I recommend Duplicolor wheel paint. It is great for the money.

:bat:

 

[KidVermicious]

It seems like the wire wheel is scratching up the surface WAY too much.. I can get my finger nail in the little groves.....


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Once you've wheeled the thing down to bare metal, use an etching primer and then a filling primer and all those little nicks and scratches will disappear.

 

[infamousRNR]

Thanks guys.. I guess I'm just concerned these little scratches caused by the wire wheel won't fill in after the etching primer and paint... But it sounds like the primer and paint do a pretty good job at filling in these imperfections.. Like Brian said... Not going for showroom quality but if I'm going to do it, I want it to at least look a little nice if your going right up to it and looking...

Sorry for being such a noob!!!

Not going the aircraft paint removal way.. I'm just going to scuff the sh*t out of the wheel and paint it

 

[BrianSD_42]

I would not recommend using the wire wheel on the front of the wheel.

The wires are steel and the wheel is aluminum. It COULD make scratches that will show up later. As I mentioned - probably best to only use the "wire wheel" on the inside crevices of the truck wheel vs. the curb facing side.

 

[Bt08231]

I wire wheeled the living shit out of these. After 6 total coats of paint and primer, ur good. These pics are very dirty, havnt been washed in months.

That paint remover will work fine for the tight areas that are hard to reach that still have clear coat.

 

[Bt08231]

Rear

 

[Bt08231]

Close up

 

[JeepKiller]

Rear

Wire wheel those drums! Then hit them up with a coat of black paint! It'll look 10x better haha imo at least.

 

[19963.4lsr5]

I used paint remover and then a sander with 300 grit on the flat surfaces. Etching primer and VHT black[F2LJM6QCF38WIMG]http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/21/96ff51f919eadab0c4b97b3722e81a5f.jpg[/IMG]

 

[Bt08231]

Wire wheel those drums! Then hit them up with a coat of black paint! It'll look 10x better haha imo at least.

Your right, it's my wife's truck so I don't really mess with it. I swapped her my black rims to finish off her bald tires with some burnout a and donuts, now I gotta paint mine

 

[infamousRNR]

inside where lugs go

I used paint remover and then a sander with 300 grit on the flat surfaces. Etching primer and VHT



its relatively difficult to get a piece of sandpaper inside where the lugs fit...

how crucial do you think it is to get in there if using many coats of self etching primer....?

i am not ready to deal with the mess of paint remover/aircraft remover...

i have a little portable sander that is doing good work of the major dings in the rim...

just trying to smooth out everything as much as possible...

if there is any clear coat left on the rim after a good sanding will this prevent the primer from sticking>?

thanks for the pics everyone..

h8 to start a new thread but i think there is something to be said of how much RIMS need to be prepped before paint.... i think with RIMS that have been painted many times over, paint remover is something to take advantage of... with RIMS that just have the factory coat... get it roughed up and paint. just curious to see how big of a scratch is too big to fill in with primer and paint?...


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[Bt08231]

The paint remover isn't messy, you spray it on and hose it off. It removes all the clear coat and leaves bare aluminum. You are over thinking this, trust me, it will save you hours of sanding.