Rear Disc Brake Conversion Kit

[sleepydad]

surely that's not actual vernacular for MN?? I love it.

once you hit the 20-30 mile mark out of town this is what you would expect. vernacular city.

His best vids are the ones where he takes a bus trip from MN to IL and attempts to drive a broken down free car back home. no plates or tabs. usually fixes it in the hotel parking lot and has wheels and tires delivered to said parking lot.

I have to give the guy credit he knows his carburetor-ed Americana. sets timing with a vac gauge and runs a fuel system from a spare gas can in the passenger seat. Props because he plays the part well and he's a lot smarter than he seems @ first.

 

[jkeith.w]

once you hit the 20-30 mile mark out of town this is what you would expect. vernacular city.

His best vids are the ones where he takes a bus trip from MN to IL and attempts to drive a broken down free car back home. no plates or tabs. usually fixes it in the hotel parking lot and has wheels and tires delivered to said parking lot.

I have to give the guy credit he knows his carburetor-ed Americana. sets timing with a vac gauge and runs a fuel system from a spare gas can in the passenger seat. Props because he plays the part well and he's a lot smarter than he seems @ first.

If only I'd filmed when I bought a $400 truck off eBay in Boston, hitched a ride there, slept on a bench until the train station opened, got stopped by the MA cops for no tag, then drove it straight back to NC with a broken leaf spring when I was younger. Opportunity for fame missed, I guess?

Oh - and the rear wheel came off a week later while a friend was driving it, lol

(It was a 93 Toyota 4wd truck)

 

[Bad Luck]

Maybe others plan to cut off the backing plate to avoid messing with the bearings.

I don't recall seeing this but I may have missed it. What do you do with the backing plate? It's been a while since I've replaced my axle seals and wheel bearings, but I thought the wheel bearing is pressed into the backing plate to hold the axle housing side of the bearing. Is the seat a seperate piece from the backing plate? Is there an alternate part number we can use if we don't want to chop up the backing plate if it is all one piece?

 

[phattyduck]

I don't know where you got the ABS and 5 MPH figure from. I can tell you, for certain, that the ABS locks up going 1 MPH on steep descents. I thought about ripping it out all together it annoys me that much. Since going to 35's it's much less noticeable but still there.

When I get the time to do this I'll most likely just remove the ABS. Brake bias will be controlled with a manual proportioning valve. Then some line locks. Then a t-case brake as well as the parking brake. There's times wheeling in the steep when I need my rig to not move and having all that should make it happen. lol

That's good and bad news. :bounce:

Many early ABS systems would stop working at very low speeds, and I consider the 4Runner ABS system 'early' (at least the '96-'00 system - three channel only!).

-Charlie

 

[brillo_76]

I don't recall seeing this but I may have missed it. What do you do with the backing plate? It's been a while since I've replaced my axle seals and wheel bearings, but I thought the wheel bearing is pressed into the backing plate to hold the axle housing side of the bearing. Is the seat a seperate piece from the backing plate? Is there an alternate part number we can use if we don't want to chop up the backing plate if it is all one piece?

Excellent question. As from what I seen the backing plate has to be cut off around the 4 hub bolts for this to work.

I am sure a fabricated one could be made to take it place. I am betting folks are just chopping them off.

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[midcoma]

What do you do with the backing plate?

This is an exploded view of the axle assembly.



The backing plate is captive between the bearing case and the axle hub.

There are two general ways to remove it.

1. Press off the backing plate and bearing case assembly, then remove the bearing case from the backing plate. After the parts are separated, you reassemble everything without the backing plate. It would be best to replace the bearings and seals while you do this because you're already removing them and in case they are damaged during the process.

2. Remove the axle shaft assembly and press out the splined bolts attaching the backing plate to the bearing case. Then the backing plate can be cut off of the bearing case. Once the backing plate is removed, the axle assembly would be ready to reinstall without removing the bearings, sensor rotor, or bearing retainers.

 

[2TH4IST]

I'm removing my backing plate as I will be replacing my rear wheel bearing/seals.

 

[midcoma]

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[2TH4IST]

[MENTION=118207]midcoma[/MENTION] never got the paypal invoice. Do you have a eta for the ebrake stuff? Just trying to plan when I'll be doing this mod.

 

[midcoma]

[MENTION=118207]midcoma[/MENTION] never got the paypal invoice.

Invoice sent.

 

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[MENTION=118207]midcoma[/MENTION] not sure how to PM on here but i did send you a message :ranger:

 

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Hey, sent you a message. I guess i dont have the ability to PM yet since my post count is so low.

 

[2TH4IST]

Got the brackets from [MENTION=118207]midcoma[/MENTION] today, and man he didn't skimp on anything in this kit, good quality bolts and nuts, and good finish. Here is a pic. Also the special tool I made from a rear piston auto adjust and a 3" bolt welded and ground. Can't wait for the e-brake set up!

 

[weekendclimber]

Oh shnizzle, did miss getting these? Never saw a PayPal either :-\

 

[midcoma]

Can't wait for the e-brake set up!

Glad you're happy with it :thumb:
I can't wait for the parking brake kit either!

Did I miss getting these?

You didn't miss anything. 2TH4IST chose to set up his own brake lines, so I was able to go ahead and send him the kit. For the people that sent me info regarding brake line preferences, I placed the order on Friday and will hopefully get them soon.

 

[toverturf]

Not ready for these yet but I think this is something i'll definitely pick up in the future. The rear drums on mine are quite rusted and I have a small hole in one of my backing plates. So instead of replacing the backing plate i'd rather just do this conversion kit.

 

[Blackdawg]

Kit is looking solid. Did I mess when we were supposed to pay?

 

[Jarods7920]

Any updates here?

 

[JZiggy]

That was one of the funnest things of the VW bugs :thumb3:

I finally thought to try it out. Sure enough, with well adjusted rear drum brakes they lock The tires right up when you pull the e brake.

I guess heat dissipation is one of the major expected benefits of going with rear disc brakes?

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

Another advantage is when going through water crossings that are deep enough to wet the shoes. The drums/shoes don't dry quickly compared to discs/pads, so the rear braking is somewhat reduced.

I finally thought to try it out. Sure enough, with well adjusted rear drum brakes they lock The tires right up when you pull the e brake.

I guess heat dissipation is one of the major expected benefits of going with rear disc brakes?