Request to Toyota for next gen 4runner

Match the interior to the the Tacoma, slight front end freshen up with new head lights (triple beam LED?) and some sort of updated power terrain.
 
- Decent leather
- More Power or Lose a lot of weight
- Dash trim that doesn't get scratched by looking at it
- More sound deadening
- Center Diff like 4th Gen or 5th Gen Limited, the part time system for everything below limited was cheap AF

Make it so!
 
Not even close. The 4th gen has been the best selling generation of the 4Runner year for year in the U.S. The first four years alone they sold something like 430,000 of them. The 5th gen didn't even reach that number in its first six years. 2016 was a good year for the 5th gen though, with more than 100K sales for the first time.

The 5th gen may have an advantage because it's already on its 8th consecutive year, which is a record for any generation of the 4Runner.



I was on my phone at the time. I recalled the sales were declining. Which they were.



2008 47,878
2009 19,675


Total generation sales would goto the 4th gen. It's unique in the automotive world to have sales continue to increase with very little change to the platform. Mid 2011 had the Tsunami. 2016 also had the earthquake/fire disruption. I don't have anything against the 4th Gen. Tried to talk the wife into a low mileage 4th Gen.
 
Get Real ! This is Toyota your talking about , we haven't had decent cup holder since -----well , ever really . More likely to get a V10 solid front axle offroad monster then a great cup holder.

This statement is completely untrue. I'm appalled really. I had a 1989 hilux 4X4 with the pullout cupholders RIGHT in front of the A/C ducts. Yes, ice cold bee, ahem, Cokes all the time!!! Winter? Hot coffee ALL. THE. TIME. (Shatner voice)
Just don't hit a bump and you are golden!

Back on track...

I just want a manual tranny in my 4Runner. The rest is good. I like my big mouth 4X4 bass fish truck cause it's different.
 
Went to auto show today. They had new the 4runner off road there with the listed specs as a 2016. Toyota can't even get the year right. Looked at the Tacoma trd pro, I wanted to like it but the seats do not have height adjustability. Shame on Toyota. The ridgeline has a way nicer interior and the seats are powered. Toyota is really lacking.
 
I was on my phone at the time. I recalled the sales were declining. Which they were.



2008 47,878
2009 19,675


Total generation sales would goto the 4th gen. It's unique in the automotive world to have sales continue to increase with very little change to the platform. Mid 2011 had the Tsunami. 2016 also had the earthquake/fire disruption. I don't have anything against the 4th Gen. Tried to talk the wife into a low mileage 4th Gen.

2009 was a carryover year, so the sales numbers for that year are very misleading. I remember strongly considering trading my 2004 for a 2009 when I first learned about the 5th generation 4Runner coming out. I didn't like the looks and I didn't like how much stuff Toyota took out of the 5th gen. The problem was that 2009 models were extremely rare and extremely limited. I could only find two Sport Editions anywhere in the tri-state area and both of them were red (I had red), so I decided to just hold on to my 2004 and wait to see what happens with the 6th gen. Strangely, I'm still waiting.

The advantage now for the 5th gen is that the rest of the competition has pretty much disappeared. Direct competitors like the Xterra are history. Pathfinders are now essentially minivans. Even the death of the FJ Cruiser has helped increase 4Runner sales. So it doesn't surprise me that 4Runner sales increased for the last two years, considering that there's nothing that really directly competes. Jeep Wrangler somewhat competes, but it's more of a dedicated offroader. Jeep Grand Cherokee is probably the closest competitor, but it's not body-on-frame.

Personally, I'm starting to get the itch for a new SUV. If Toyota doesn't show us the next gen 4Runner soon, I'm might switch over to the dark side and get a Jeep. A couple of friends have them and they are really nice vehicles. I'd be nervous about the reliability, but my buddies haven't had any issues with theirs, so who knows???
 
Avoid the Grand Cherokee and Cherokee. Wrangler has about the same resale value as the 4Runner. Get it in the writing the dealer will fix any water leaks from the freedom top. Go for the Rubicon. Skip the Hard Rock edition. Alpine has a new stereo that fits the Wrangler. Wrangler stereos are lacking.

There is a major update coming to the Wrangler. The current version will continue to be sold for awhile as the "Classic" Wrangler.
 
All I really think the next 4R needs is more power (V8)? and a six speed transmission.

I had a 3rd gen for 16 years waiting for a bigger 4Runner and finally the 5th gen is the right size!!!
 
I'm might switch over to the dark side and get a Jeep.

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Avoid the Grand Cherokee and Cherokee. Wrangler has about the same resale value as the 4Runner. Get it in the writing the dealer will fix any water leaks from the freedom top. Go for the Rubicon. Skip the Hard Rock edition. Alpine has a new stereo that fits the Wrangler. Wrangler stereos are lacking.

There is a major update coming to the Wrangler. The current version will continue to be sold for awhile as the "Classic" Wrangler.

The Wrangler is more of an offroad rig and it's just not good on the road. The truth is that 98% of my driving is on road, so I want something that's good on the road, but can still handle a trail or two once in a while. That's why I got a 4Runner in the first place.

That said, I REALLY like the new Grand Cherokees. I know people like to bash them, but two of my friends have 2015 models and there are three people at work who have new ones too. Not one of them has anything bad to say about their Grand Cherokees, other than the fuel economy is worse than expected. But I guess that's what you get when you choose the Hemi engine. Anyway, reliability doesn't really worry me that much because of warranties. I have a German car that's now out of warranty, so I obviously don't mind living on the edge! :wow::bounce:
 
All I really want is another 70 series.

New from a US dealer, not some 24 year old piece of shit imported from some ******* Persian Gulf nation.
 

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