Rickashay's Projector Retrofit Thread

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LMAO, that probably took a while to type out! hahah
 
fantastic thread, I just got done reading through the entire thing. Quick NOOB question for you.

How do projectors compare to stock halogens in terms of reliability in the offroad world? I'm concerned about vibrations, extreme moisture (river crossings), dust/dand, extreme temperatures, etc. Do you think halogens or projectors have the edge in the longevity/reliability category?
 
fantastic thread, I just got done reading through the entire thing. Quick NOOB question for you.

How do projectors compare to stock halogens in terms of reliability in the offroad world? I'm concerned about vibrations, extreme moisture (river crossings), dust/dand, extreme temperatures, etc. Do you think halogens or projectors have the edge in the longevity/reliability category?

Thanks! Not noob at all... I'll try and give you an answer:

A HID bulb has an average lifespan of approx 2500 hrs. A halogen bulb has a lifespan of up to 500. Keep in mind this is an average and, like anything, will vary with different quality levels of the components - or bulbs actually being used.

In my personal HID experience, I have wheeled my truck quite a bit with HID's and I have never had any failures due to vibrations, or heard of any for that matter. I mean theoretically it could happen if the electrode chamber were to receive a crack from a hard enough impact - but at that point you'd probably be replacing more than just bulbs... more like a front end collision! The projector bodies themselves would not see any ill effects from vibrations as they are a single body of metal with a glass lens. As long as a they have been retrofitted properly and attached to the new housing securely (speaking in terms of a retrofit here, not an OEM projector equipped headlight assembly).

Moisture could produce a problem, like with any electrical component, but most of the quality HID ballasts are weather sealed. In this regard even OEM Toyota Kioto ballasts are not as weather sealed as the Morimoto units that I use for retrofits. The Morimoto units have an externally sealed casing and the internals are coated with a rubber filler/sealant. I have had mine underwater briefly and they still work great!

As long as the headlamp is sealed accordingly, you should not really have any issues with dust/sand migrating into the headlight chamber. The only exception I see to this is if you are CONSTANTLY in a desert/sandy environment. All headlights have small "breather" holes to assist in fog reduction and rapid temperature changes. These are usually located on the backside of the headlamp and are out of the way of dust and sand, but with absolute prolonged use in a dusty environment, there is a chance of dust penetration. This would be the case for any headlight, both HID or Halogen.

HID's are more efficient and last longer than a halogen setup. Their downside being a higher cost of adoption and there are more physical components to an HID setup vs. a halogen one. The greater amount of components does increase the potential for fail points. However HID's have come a long ways and have been around for a long time. If you are using quality components, an HID system is a hands-down winner.

For more in-depth information regarding all of the HID components, this is a very useful source: Helpful information on upgrading headlights from The Retrofit Source Inc

I hope I have answered your questions in my ramble...
 
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i think the ONLY downside to projectors in the "conditions" is the snow. Now keep in mind, I haven't fully tested my theory but I've noticed when it gets really cold and the snow starts sticking and freezing to the glass on the headlight, the HID won't melt the snow like a halogen bulb will. I've never been stranded because of this issue but i can imagine it can alter the light output?
 
i think the ONLY downside to projectors in the "conditions" is the snow. Now keep in mind, I haven't fully tested my theory but I've noticed when it gets really cold and the snow starts sticking and freezing to the glass on the headlight, the HID won't melt the snow like a halogen bulb will. I've never been stranded because of this issue but i can imagine it can alter the light output?

Ooo, the light definitely has some heat to it - it melts the snow just fine, as long as the bulb is on ;)
 
Ooo, the light definitely has some heat to it - it melts the snow just fine, as long as the bulb is on ;)

Yah, we had 3 hours of slush/freezing rain on Sunday. My entire truck had 1/2" of solid ice on it. When I finally broke the ice and was able to open the doors, I turned the headlights on and within 15mins the ice was melted off the headlights.
 
That is crazy. Thought originally to be impossible but your brought your 4R up another level.

I totally feel like I've gone with the right guy for projectors... but now I can't wait haha. I'm surprised you got all that work done when you're not replying to my endless barrage of emails.

Seriously. You have a haut front end.
 
Yah, we had 3 hours of slush/freezing rain on Sunday. My entire truck had 1/2" of solid ice on it. When I finally broke the ice and was able to open the doors, I turned the headlights on and within 15mins the ice was melted off the headlights.


really? The other day I went out and put my hand on the glass after driving for about 15-20 minutes and it wasn't hot at all. Maybe my HID's are just weak sauce or something?
 
really? The other day I went out and put my hand on the glass after driving for about 15-20 minutes and it wasn't hot at all. Maybe my HID's are just weak sauce or something?

sure they might not be hot, but then again after driving around neither will a halogen lamp -the air flow over the lamp keeps the cool. but still not cold enough to freeze over. just because they are not hot doesnt mean they will not melt ice, even if the lamps are only at 40* they will melt ice
 
Looks great man! i put a pair of FXR Bi-Xenon on my 2000 runner also, my mounting job isn't that clean looking though, isn't it nice to actually be able to see what's ahead of you at night now?

:cheers:

great work!
 
Thinking about doing some retro's. Quick question, how do you know you have the projector level before drilling your holes for the mounting screws?
 
Thinking about doing some retro's. Quick question, how do you know you have the projector level before drilling your holes for the mounting screws?

Check out blcktpgsr's recent post in his build thread. You "should" shoot the headlights in their halogen form against a wall, mark where the output lies with masking tape, and use that as a guideline for the projectors. However you need to make sure that the halogen headlights are adjusted EVENLY and CORRECTLY prior to marking them on the wall. I actually prefer to remove them from the vehicle and shoot the halogens in my basement after they have been removed from the adjustable mounting bracket, then mark accordingly on the wall wish masking tape.

I have a few other tricks up my sleeve for getting the alignment but I can't give away all of my secrets!!! haha

PS - TRS has a Retrofit Guide that can help you walk through the process.

GL!
 
Yup, assuming they are in good shape. No sense it doing a retrofit if the lenses are scratched/cracked as it will affect light output. They just need to be the "clear" housings - 99+.
 
So Rick... I hope you don't mind me posting this here but with that snow melting thing we were talking about earlier; I got to give it the snow test today and i guess it kind of worked as far as heat melting a little hole though the snow but to me this looks like it could affect the light output at night. What do you think?
maybe i need to start my bigger retrofit lol!

this is driving for about an hour, both headlights looked like this

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