Rub or no rub - consolidated tire upgrade review

[mace.]

It's not beating a dead horse and yes we already have a great guide. But there are mixed reviews on the 275/70/17, some say it rubs, some say it doesn't. It seems like it depends on the package (TE, TRD etc) and tire manufacturer. This is what I'm trying to gather. Different tire makers make the same sized tire slightly different, like tread width and depth.

The problem is that two vehicles of identical year, trim level, wheel, tire make and model and tire size will have different results. We have seen this over the years time and time again. If someone wants to guarantee that they won't rub they need to stick to stock size.

 

[emmantik]

You have to bring in alignment numbers if you are considering this. If you rub and how could be dependent on your alignment. And aftermarket ucas or not. Otherwise you will be missing lots of info. And this still doesnt address the fact that all vehicles could have subtle differences.

There are other threads for that...

This is just to get an idea on how 275/70/17's from various tire manufacturers fit on STOCK SR5's, TRD's, TE's and maybe even LE's.

Yes, there are other variables involved, I get that...but this is not the point of this thread.

Some of you are overthinking this...

 

[4RnR Grl]

There are other threads for that...

This is just to get an idea on how 275/70/17's from various tire manufacturers fit on STOCK SR5's, TRD's, TE's and maybe even LE's.

Yes, there are other variables involved, I get that...but this is not the point of this thread.

Some of you are overthinking this...

So basically you want a list of how 275's fit on a stock 4Runner..... from ALL tire manufacturers.

Good luck with that.

:thumb3:

 

[emmantik]

The problem is that two vehicles of identical year, trim level, wheel, tire make and model and tire size will have different results. We have seen this over the years time and time again. If someone wants to guarantee that they won't rub they need to stick to stock size.

Why would a chart be made if people wanted to stick to stock sized tires?!? The chart says 275/70/17 will fit with no mods...there are different reviews on that. This is the point of this thread, to get real world reviews.

 

[emmantik]

So basically you want a list of how 275's fit on a stock 4Runner..... from ALL tire manufacturers.



Good luck with that.



:thumb3:

Let's get real, not ALL but probably the most common ones. Duratracs, KO2's, Grapplers etc etc. Which would most likely be half a dozen or so.

 

[rok medic]

Thanks! What package 4Runner?

2015 limited completely stock 275 ko2 and tko 17x8.5 -6 wheels .
only slight rub on body mount on driver side . It's just enough to clean dust off a lil bitty bit .
you will have to cut front liners and remove the secondary mudflaps on the front and trim the main or completely remove the main mud flaps .
Stock trail wheels had no rubbing anywhere at all but they were heavy. so I swapped them to a much lighter wheel and mpg went back up -yay.
now it's only 4lbs heavier than the stock 20"s

Ps 265 look way to wussy and 20"s are worthless on a 4Runner -looks like a bro mobile

 

[mace.]

Why would a chart be made if people wanted to stick to stock sized tires?!? The chart says 275/70/17 will fit with no mods...there are different reviews on that. This is the point of this thread, to get real world reviews.

I wasn't targeting the merit of the chart. Most people that mod their vehicle know that they may rub due to their modifications and have no problem addressing that.

My point was that if someone wants to guarantee that they wont rub then they shouldn't up size.

My point to you and what I tried to state earlier was, what are you going to do when you have conflicting data??? We have seen identical setups with aftermarket wheels and tires, lift or no lift with different results.

 

[B...]

You're not going to find a ton of fitment data on different 275/70/17 tires. It's an oddball size.

From your posts, its sounds like you're looking for a premium, name brand AT tire in that size that is 100% guaranteed to fit your truck without any rubbing, right? There's really only one tire that fits that description (the BFG AT KO2) and as you've already found out, it doesn't fit without rubbing 100% of the time. Here's the good news: If it does rub, it's easily fixed by cutting/heating/bending/removing the plastic in the front wheel wells. If you're not interested in potentially having to do the work to get the 275s to fit, get the 265s and be done with it. A 265/70/17 BFG AT KO2 is a great tire for your stated use, it will "look" quite a bit beefier than the OEM tires, and you wont suffer the MPG hit that comes with a load range E 275/70/17 tire.

 

[4RnR Grl]

My point to you and what I tried to state earlier was, what are you going to do when you have conflicting data??? We have seen identical setups with aftermarket wheels and tires, lift or no lift with different results.

^ This.

No two 4Runners are going to sit exactly the same, even straight from the factory. The tire fitment chart is a "guide". So for this thread, [MENTION=79050]emmantik[/MENTION] is basically reinstating the same information that is already in the chart. Will 275s fit? Yes, Will they rub? Maybe. Depends on your setup, depends on what tires you have, etc. Again.... beating a dead horse. Why reinvent the wheel?

 

[emmantik]

You guys are missing one point...this is also meant as a "guide" but with REAL WORLD APPLICATIONS.

It's not just for me. It's for everyone in the future who will ask...

I'm just taking the 275/70/17 part of the guide and going one step further as it would be the most common size for someone who wants bigger tires but don't want or can't afford a lift. What's the harm in that? Smh...

 

[4RnR Grl]

The bottom line is... your data will not be the same for all 4Runners even within the same setup with the same tire. That is why the chart was made, to allow for tolerance. Not everyone is buying the same four brands of tires. The information you are asking for will be irrelevant due to inconsistencies in manufacturing, fitment and modifications.

No matter how you twist it, the data will not be consistent across the board. I really have no idea how else to put this.

 

[emmantik]

I wasn't targeting the merit of the chart. Most people that mod their vehicle know that they may rub due to their modifications and have no problem addressing that.



My point was that if someone wants to guarantee that they wont rub then they shouldn't up size.



My point to you and what I tried to state earlier was, what are you going to do when you have conflicting data??? We have seen identical setups with aftermarket wheels and tires, lift or no lift with different results.

That's why it is a "guide" just like every bit of info on this site. Everything done as a result of info from this site is done at the owners own risk...I would think this is common sense.

My goal is to consolidate and present the data.

 

[ST1FLER]

 

[emmantik]

The bottom line is... your data will not be the same for all 4Runners even within the same setup with the same tire. That is why the chart was made, to allow for tolerance. Not everyone is buying the same four brands of tires. The information you are asking for will be irrelevant due to inconsistencies in manufacturing, fitment and modifications.



No matter how you twist it, the data will not be consistent across the board. I really have no idea how else to put this.

This is my point. Every tire makes the same sized tire slightly different. I wanna know how they fit on different 4runner 5th gen packages on stock suspension. I feel like I've said this a hundred times already...now that's beating a dead horse...

 

[emmantik]

That's what I'm feeling...a lot of talk but no productive contribution...

 

[ST1FLER]

 

[mace.]

Maybe you'll rub, maybe you won't.

 

[1engineer]

This is my point. Every tire makes the same sized tire slightly different. I wanna know how they fit on different 4runner 5th gen packages on stock suspension. I feel like I've said this a hundred times already...now that's beating a dead horse...

The model type makes no difference whatsoever. If you have interpreted that from your research then it is coincidence based on who actually reported it.

 

[SLC Punk]

2014 Trail
275/70/17 BFG KO2
Ran on stock suspension with no rubbing ever

Added 5100's with stock front springs set at 2.5", Rear 5100's with DS spacer at 1.5"
No Rubbing ever

Added Spidertrax spacers and they rubbed against the front bumper really bad.
Shaved the bumper, moved the liner forward. Very minor rubbing on liner at full lock, no plans to further adjust.

 

[DEERUNNER]

For this to be accurate, we're also going to need PSI, ambient temperature, and direction that the beaten horse is pointed towards. If the horse has OWL we need that too.