Rubber Windshield Mouldings for 1st gens.

[pipefitter]

I'm new here, so please bear with me if this information is elsewhere. I've seen several first gen 4Runners here with a rubber gasket for the windshield and they look great. Are there any modifications needed to the windshield opening in order to make it fit, and here can you buy the moulding?

 

[KidVermicious]

Check [MENTION=80771]RAD4Runner[/MENTION]'s thread, he's got some details in there.

 

[papawhellie]

I emailed the guy here who is in the glass business. The reply:
100.00 shipped
you will be able to find it cheaper if you have a local glass company the part number is wbl623

 

[pipefitter]

Thanks. Did it require any modification to the windshield opening?

 

[RAD4Runner]

Thanks. Did it require any modification to the windshield opening?

Are we talking:
1) "Gasket" which provides actual seal and secures the glass to the pinch-weld (aka opening), OR
2) "Trim" which is cosmetic?

No modification required for the pinchweld (aka opening). However, both would require removal of the glass in order to do a clean job.

"Gasket" will absolutely require removal of glass and removing old adhesive, then re-installing using the "gasket" like this

With "Trim" you may be able to shoe-horn it in there, IF and only IF you can make enough clearance by removing excess adhesive that fills the gap. In the process, there is a great chance that you will stress/chip the glass like I did.

Even if you do not break the glass, I'm pretty sure you will find rust that requires removal of the glass in order to fix cleanly.

 

[pipefitter]

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. I was under the impression that the opening was a bit different. What stinks is that I have already done the rust repair, had the opening painted, and had a new windshield and all new Toyota trim installed. The shop that did the installation screwed it up, the upper trim was bent to the point it needs replacing again. I'm still fighting with them, (they claim "that's as good as it'll ever be", which is BS), but would much rather replace all the trim with a single rubber seal.

 

[1974RUNNER]

Putting in the rubber gasket on mine has been 1 of my favorite fixes. Really like the look. I think any auto glass guy worth his salt should be able to do it for you. It shouldn't be to expensive esp. since you all ready did the rust repair.

 

[RAD4Runner]

Putting in the rubber gasket on mine has been 1 of my favorite fixes. Really like the look. I think any auto glass guy worth his salt should be able to do it for you. It shouldn't be to expensive esp. since you all ready did the rust repair.

Unfortunately...

... had a new windshield and all new Toyota trim installed. The shop that did the installation screwed it up

pipefitter,
If like me you do not care much for aesthetics but for for function, durability and rust-proofing, since you could not install rubber gasket without removing the glass again, have you considered just filling the gap with either below?
1) Urethane - exactly same adhesive they use to stick the glass on. Gets rather messy, though. OR,
2) Dow-Corning 995 silicone structural sealant. Exactly what I used on mine. one tube should be enough.

Either way, IF done well, you will have completely water-proof seal that does not collect dirt like chrome trim does, OR moisture like a gasket without sealant would.

 

[pipefitter]

I had actually given some thought to using a sealer, (although the Dow-Corning idea is better than what I was thinking), in the channel around the windshield. I'm a little worried about the looks, because I am trying to "somewhat" restore the truck. I may give it a shot, though and see how it looks. In the event that I do go with the rubber gasket, it's part number wbl623, and is supposed to fit a 1989-1990 model 4Runner. Is that correct? Thanks to all you guys for bearing with me on this thing.

 

[RAD4Runner]

...although the Dow-Corning idea is better than what I was thinking...it's part number wbl623, and is supposed to fit a 1989-1990 model 4Runner.

N.P.
Always a pleasure discussing our mod/upgrade ideas. We all learn from each other.

Pls note that silicone sealant has acid as part of its solvent/curing agent.

If going with silicone, do your research; or double-check mine. Cheap silicone uses acetic acid. Acid can promote rusting.

DC-995 uses stearic acid. I looked up stearic acid and found out is actually used to rust-proof some materials!

Since I often load my kayak on top, and sometimes dripping with saltwater, I think some stearic acid which dries up as silicone cures is better than saltwater trapped under chrome trim. That's the reason i went with DC-995.

 

[pipefitter]

Thanks for the help all of you guys have given me on this. I've owned it since new, and it was the "Family Truckster" for many years. I had some rust in the frame and quite a bit under the truck, and decided to save it. I had a local frame shop do the frame repair, bought new 1/4 panels from Wolf Steel, Toyota front fenders, bumper, valance, filler panel, bumper ends, and of course the windshield mouldings. (a buddy is the parts manager of a local Toyota dealer, which helps a lot!). Once I got started on the body, I realized my head gasket was gone, and decided to fix that the timing chain, and the clutch which was slipping and raising hell. I should be getting paint on it soon, and will post some pictures of the build and the final results once completed. Thanks again for all the help!

 

[Nervo19]

Pipefitter, welcome. Did you have good results from Wolf Steel? A couple of years ago they sent me 2nd gen parts for my 89 4Runner. I even ordered them as 88 parts and discussed the parts via email with them. They charge so much for shipping they are assured they won't be returned. I live in the Ashland area so if you have any great body shop or resources I'm all ears. The windshield part you are ordering that "fits 89-90 4Runners" concerns me because they are two different body styles. It should either be for 84-89 4Runners or 90-95 4Runners. I guess if someone here is in the glass business and knows the part number I trust he knows what he's talking about.

 

[pipefitter]

Thanks for the welcome Nervo19. I received the parts I ordered, which were all three repair panels for both sides. The shop I had install them swore they would never install another set! They are not exact duplicates of the factory panels, but I think they'll be okay once painted. I see the difference every time I look at the truck. I could have bought oem panels for around $900.00 each. Honestly, the cost of the panels probably offset the cost of the labor, and if I had to do it again I probably would have used the oem parts. As for a great body shop, while I'm not overjoyed with the results, so many shops these days only do insurance work, I was glad to find the guy. I use Priority Toyota for my parts. David Sweat is the parts manager, and a Toyota guy for probably 35 years. He and his guys have helped me a lot. As for the windshield, I'd like to try the once piece moulding, but since I already have all the new parts, I may stay with the goofy factory trim.

 

[Plain Old Mike]

Can anyone help??

My 87 windshield glass is cracking and I can find NO one locally, big or small auto glass shops, that can find me the replacement. Any leads out there on where to look?

 

[joeynational]

My 87 windshield glass is cracking and I can find NO one locally, big or small auto glass shops, that can find me the replacement. Any leads out there on where to look?

Where do you live should be no problem to find some glass


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