Rubicon vs. Lion's Back

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Here are some of his photos from ground to give you the depth of this obstacle:

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They need a porti-potti on the top so I could clean my soiled underwear. The guy was right he did have balls of steel.
 
Does somebodu have a link to the Blazer losing control and crashing at the bottom but thankfully both people did live. My friend met the husband of the wife who lost it and he recounted the tail for them while out in Moab this last March.
 
When I am out there, staring at Lion's Back, I turn chicken. All my thoughts of even walking up that rock drain out my boots.

I don't care what photos you see of Lion's Back, none will prepare you for the mental challenge it offers.

My palms are sweating just typing this.

BTW: I am that guy that passes you on a motorcycle, in a flash, on mountain curves, down the double yellow, with both lanes full of cars.
 
RonMAIDEN said:
Does somebodu have a link to the Blazer losing control and crashing at the bottom but thankfully both people did live. My friend met the husband of the wife who lost it and he recounted the tail for them while out in Moab this last March.

I don't have the video but that is a crazy vid for sure..

She lucky to be alive... thats for sure!
 
I had trouble sleeping last night, thanks.

It looks like something I'd like to do, minus the cliffs. :D

I just don't know if I could put enough trust into any vehicle to attempt that. If I did, I'd never sell the truck, or look at it the same way. Too much sentimental value.
 
I have heard that Lion's Back is more scary than it is tough. Again, this is what i have heard. I would not do it in a million years. It's like driving on a cliff...you fear the worst, but the terrain is easy.
 
Thai said:
I have heard that Lion's Back is more scary than it is tough.

You are right. I can easily walk across a 2X4 on the ground. Put it between two rooftops and there is no way. Lion's Back is mostly between your ears.

A friend of mine tried to walk up Lion's Back, or should I say crawl, wearing sneakers. He said that even with sneakers, there was no way for his feet to get the traction necessary to climb that first steep part.
 
Yeap,

That freaking video brings back some freaky memories:)

As for the one thing I agree with this guy on, I will never do it in a 5 speed again, next time will be an Auto. The vehicle he did it in would by my choice for next time, those things are so capable in stock form, he had a 4 inch and 33's so that helped, but made it more harry i'm sure. I just had a 2 inch body lift and 33's on my truck when I ran it. That was, holy crap, about 5 years ago before my daughter was born, the only reason I would do it now is because I've already did it, it's a hell of an adreniline rush, and honestly, it's pretty easy, the hood on the T100 is pretty long so I couldn't see the path as good as he could so that messed with me, nothing like being off-camber on that incline:( I will hopefully get stationed around there again, if not, I'll probably do a trail run out that way whe nI get back to the states. The day I did it, there were about 50 other trucks out there, I"ve never seen it that dead, guess I always went with people? The entrance gets you because you can't see, then after that on the way up it's not bad, however, i was talking to myself like that when I was going up too, I had a CB instead of the walkie talky's like he had but it was very simular. I would recommend it to everyone, and the 4Runners are capable of conquering it easily in stock form, might want some better tires though, I was running BFG AT KO's, they did great.

L8r, that's the best video I've ever saw of it shot.

T
 
Re: Yeap,

vandert said:
That freaking video brings back some freaky memories:)

Cool. I was hoping you'd find this. Couple of questions.

Before that video I had always assumed it woud be pretty easy
to just follow the tire tracks up and down. Can you comment on that?

He went around a couple of holes. It was hard to tell whether they could be straddled easily or not. Do you recall?
 
It's funny,

I rarely check this board anymore but this post peaked my interest in it again, I'm still deployed but we might go back into a 4 Runner again on my return, it's kinda in the air, but we both miss ours greatly, now to answer your questions.

The lighting on his time of day was horrible, it made some of those holes look worse than they are. If you do it in the morning, the sun is behind you and it lets you read the lines easier, further ahead, he had the sun at the wrong angle but it was good timing because it didn't blind him. Now as for following the tire tracks, it is fairly easy, but alot of that is blown away, you have to listen closely but you can hear his tires talking to him alot, your right at the edge of traction almost the whole time. What that means is that alot of the tire tracks are the "dust" for a lack of better word, if it's after a recent rain, there are still tracks, but not as much as I always assumed, different lighting will show you tracks all the time though. I would never run that without some type of traction control, or at the very minimum a good LSD.

I didn't have the problems with the holes as for goin around them, I just stradled quite a few of them but I didn't feel the need to keep going like him, I hit the top, and found the widest place to turn around, rmember T100's are practically full sized, I needed a wide spot to turn around, he didn't do his in the best spot, he picked one of the only really off camber spots to turn around, there are quite a few flat spots on the top to flip a bitch, granted, it's still a 6-10 point turn around but his area was smaller and off camber. Up to the point taht I went, I was able to stradle though, aired down 33's on 8 inch rim makes for a pretty wide contact patch and then the T100 is easily 6 inches wider than the Rubicon right off the bat, he could have straddled several of those holes but he chose the safest lines for his ride IMO when it came to the holes.

Alright, I'll get off my soapbox for now:) Thanks for asking about it, it was a truly awsome experience and I will do it again, either in a Jeep or a Toyota I'm sure, I'm kinda brand loyal to those two for 4wd's now:)
 
Re: Yeap,

vandert said:
I would recommend it to everyone, and the 4Runners are capable of conquering it easily in stock form, might want some better tires though, I was running BFG AT KO's, they did great.



Seriously? Stock suspension?

Thanks for chiming in. I'm sure it was an awsome experiance.

That is also the best video I have ever seen of it since it was from the drivers view. It really allowed you to get a true perspective of it as opposed to watching it from someone who taped it from the bottom.
 

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