School Engineering Project
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1engineer
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Very good! Concept is sound. Besides "pinning" the attachments to the mounting plate what other ideas do you have that could secure the different attachments?
Next step will be (still in sketch mode) a 3 view (top, front, side) sketch of both the mounting plate and attachments.
In the real world, you would need to be prepared to answer and defend any questions or criticisms like "What about the passenger left knee?" or "The console won't be strong enough to handle the overhanging load of two full cups + the weight of the attachment." "What are you going to do to strengthen the console mount?"
Always make sure you think of every single thing that can be asked and have an answer for it. #idiotproof
Kryptoroxx
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I like the location because it works with the 5 spd and auto.
How are you going to secure the cup? Memory foam comes to mind for a quick deal but spring loaded arms work well when paired with a solid base (unlike toyota OEM pre 98)
Just watch out for how far to the side the 4wd shifter slides out. I have never stopped to actually look and see whether it goes outside of the console or not.
How are you going to secure the cup? Memory foam comes to mind for a quick deal but spring loaded arms work well when paired with a solid base (unlike toyota OEM pre 98)
Just watch out for how far to the side the 4wd shifter slides out. I have never stopped to actually look and see whether it goes outside of the console or not.
SRQ-Runner
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I've been thinking about other ways to attach the cup holder to bracket. With the weight of the two full cups being pretty heavy thats why I thought about the slide in bracket. It would allow some of the wieght to be transfered throughout the bracket instead of just having all the weight on the very edge, which would then pull the console. Also, it would make it easy to remove and place a different attachment in, like a storage bin or etc. Like you said, there is many different things I have to think about. Just thought it would be good to get a quick sketch out, so people could visualize what I'm thinking.
SRQ-Runner
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I dont have a 4 wheel drive so i'll have to look for a picture and make sure everything will work.
1engineer
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How far along in math are you? Have you started any simple beam moment or loading diagrams yet? If not, that's OK. Do you know what a gusset is? If so, you might want to think about using them some way to support your overhanging load of two full drinks.
SRQ-Runner
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I passed the AB calc test last year, and I'm currently in AP physics this year but I also took Honors Physics last year and had a 96% all year. Yes, I'm fimilar with a gusset. I'll look into that.
BrianSD_42
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This can't be a serious suggestion
MTD
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To be fair he did say "probably a little too complicated" LOL :blah:
MTD
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haha I don't think he was trying to be a butt, it just sounded a little condescending, but it was meant to be sincere.
SRQ-Runner
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Lol I know. That wasnt meant to sound mean.
Jowenbrown
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Great concept. Once you get this put together, consider me your first customer.
1engineer
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You guys saw my answer right?
No it was not meant to be condescending at all but, as you both know, if you become engineers you will automatically turn into assho!es to the rest of the world.
MTD
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^^^ If you ask my (non engineer) friends I already am that guy
course I only have 2 more semesters before its official 
Looks like a cool design, I'm excited to see where you go with it! Definitely look into the amount of weight you'll be putting on the bracket like 1engineer said. Look behind your center console to see what you can attach it to. Maybe the plastic is strong enough, or maybe there is a metal bracket right there that it can be attached to.
Nice Work!
Nice Work!
SRQ-Runner
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Here's a few more designs. I was trying to show how the pin systems and support will work. The gusset will lean up against the carpet that runs up to the center console, this is so that when the cups are full all the downward force on the right side will push the left side into the carpet instead of onto the bracket were this isn't much support.
Here is what I mean by the floor coming up to the center console. The bracket will be attached the center console and the gusset will rest up against the floor which is sloping down.
**Please remember none of this is to scale yet. Of course the design will be changing. Only the 2nd day working on this project.
Here is what I mean by the floor coming up to the center console. The bracket will be attached the center console and the gusset will rest up against the floor which is sloping down.
**Please remember none of this is to scale yet. Of course the design will be changing. Only the 2nd day working on this project.
1engineer
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Very good. I would bring the bottom of the gusset to rest on the flat part of the carpet right at the intersection where the carpet and console meet. Looks good! You are coming right along. Just remember the steps of design (which I'm sure your professor taught you by now and you will be fine.
Last point: Document, document document! Even though you think you will remember later you won't. Even though its a pain and boring to write stuff down that is what makes the difference between a so so engineer and a damn good engineer. That, plus it is CYA help later on when manufacturing starts!
SRQ-Runner
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All the designs are being drawn in my engineering notebook so I will never lose them. It's funny you mention teacher cause my mom is actually my engineering teacher this year lol. But I have had engineering in the past and we have thoroughly gone over the design process.
98runner4x4
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I like the idea i hate the pre 98 cupholders
