Slow slow acceleration!

[Quentin]

here you are [mention=48413]quentin[/mention]:

lol!!

 

[Ryan1975]

Here you are [MENTION=48413]Quentin[/MENTION]:

Woah...hold on now. Let's not get too carried away here. The V8 didn't get awesome until what...2005?

 

[Whiplash Willy]

Woah...hold on now. Let's not get too carried away here. The V8 didn't get awesome until what...2005?

It got Awesomer with VVTI, but Un-Awesome with electronic throttle control, and an Air Injection Pump crammed under the Plastic intake manifold....

Atleast when the AIP goes bad in the 5th Gens, you have easy access to it!

Also, it is possible to get a Midsize Toyota BOF with a V8 and a manual transfer case in the US...for ultimate perfection!

 

[Ducmonsta]

I fully blame this thread for making me go out and enjoy my 'slow' 5th gen and mashing the throttle everywhere I go now.

I went from 13.3mpg last week to 11.4. Thanks for nuthin'!

 

[eddiebx]

Here you are [MENTION=48413]Quentin[/MENTION]:

Proof that it pays to still click on stupid threads, LOL. I literally almost spit my coffee :lmao:

 

[Ryan1975]

It got Awesomer with VVTI, but Un-Awesome with electronic throttle control, and an Air Injection Pump crammed under the Plastic intake manifold....

Atleast when the AIP goes bad in the 5th Gens, you have easy access to it!

Also, it is possible to get a Midsize Toyota BOF with a V8 and a manual transfer case in the US...for ultimate perfection!

I'm trying to be the first v8 conversion 5th gen

 

[gm4life]

I've driven a 2012 rental Acadia (wider/taller/longer/heavier than a 4Runner)with the 3.6 LLT. It has better dyno stats than the 1GR-FE, although I can't find an actual chart to compare torque curves. One the one hand, the engine felt more anemic cruising than our 2014 4Runner, but I was in the Santa Fe area and was around 5,000-10,000 ft the whole extended weekend. However, when I wanted it to get up and go, it did so without hesitation. The 6-sp tranny was nice on the interstate. I was able to coax 25mpg out of it, whereas 20mpg is the best I can get out of the 4Runner, with similar driving strategies.

I have as well spent plenty of seat time in the GM Lambada cross-overs. Ever single one of them I drove felt slow off the line and transmission was constantly gear hunting. The 3.6L LLT or 3.6L LFX is smooth operator in a Camaro, Impala, ATS or CTS. The engine is just barely adequate in a 4,900lb cross-over. I have an LFX in my Impala LTZ and love it or I will love it until the timing chain goes at 50K. The problem is even worse on these with AWD and models like the Enclave with other extras.

The 4Runner despite the fact being down one gear in the transmission and 11-18hp seems far quicker, the performance tests prove this. 0-60 in a 4WD 5th generation is 7.5-7.8 seconds and a Traverse AWD is 8.4-8.6 seconds.

Regarding fuel economy I know guys in my hilly area with LFX V6 powered Equinox's with AWD that are getting 15mpg in town, I can nail 16mpg in town if I behave. Not bad for a vehicle that can tow 1,500 pounds more and has a bigger engine with more torque. I had a rental 4Runner in the summer of 2012 it was a 4WD SR5 and at constant speeds of 45-55mph in a national park I got 25 MPG! On the interstate or 4 lane US highway at 68-69mph I can eek 22 out as well. I am more than happy with the performance/fuel economy ratio in the 4Runner.

 

[JeremyB]

I have as well spent plenty of seat time in the GM Lambada cross-overs. Ever single one of them I drove felt slow off the line and transmission was constantly gear hunting. The 3.6L LLT or 3.6L LFX is smooth operator in a Camaro, Impala, ATS or CTS. The engine is just barely adequate in a 4,900lb cross-over. I have an LFX in my Impala LTZ and love it or I will love it until the timing chain goes at 50K. The problem is even worse on these with AWD and models like the Enclave with other extras.

The 4Runner despite the fact being down one gear in the transmission and 11-18hp seems far quicker, the performance tests prove this. 0-60 in a 4WD 5th generation is 7.5-7.8 seconds and a Traverse AWD is 8.4-8.6 seconds.

It's been a while since I drove the Acadia, so my memory is getting fuzzy! However, the performance tests I looked at shows the advantage the 4Runner has in acceleration over the Lambas is due to curb weight, not that the 1GR-FE outguns the LLT.

Example, C&D tested a 2010 FWD Enclave.
Curb: ~4900 lbs
0-60: 7.4s
1/4 mile: 15.9s

C&D tested a 2009 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4954 lbs
0-60: 7.6s
1/4 mile: 15.9s@88mph

C&D teested a 2007 AWD Acadia
Curb: 5052 lbs
0-60: 8.1s
1/ mile: 16.4@85mph

C&D tested a 2010 4Runner Trail
Curb: 4780 lbs
0-60: 7.8s
1/4 mile: 16.1s@88mph

The C&D data says the Lambdas keep up with the 4Runner when you account for curb weight (F=ma).

---
Edmunds tested a 2010 2WD SR5
Curb: 4320 lbs
0-60: 7.2s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Enclave
Curb: 5050 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4919 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

It looks like the 4Runner kicks the Lambdas around, but the base 2WD 4Runner is ~15% lighter than the GMs. Also, if you look at the test report, the 4Runner was tested when it was 54 degrees. The two Lambdas were tested when it was 83, that's about a 6% difference in density altitude (the 4Runner will make more horsepower). Taking weight and air density into account, the two vehicles are equal again.

Regarding fuel economy I know guys in my hilly area with LFX V6 powered Equinox's with AWD that are getting 15mpg in town, I can nail 16mpg in town if I behave. Not bad for a vehicle that can tow 1,500 pounds more and has a bigger engine with more torque. I had a rental 4Runner in the summer of 2012 it was a 4WD SR5 and at constant speeds of 45-55mph in a national park I got 25 MPG! On the interstate or 4 lane US highway at 68-69mph I can eek 22 out as well. I am more than happy with the performance/fuel economy ratio in the 4Runner.

Hopefully our 4Rrunner will loosen up and get some summer gas in her in a bit to get the mpg up past 20. So far, the 4Runner is the only vehicle I've ever driven that gets less than the EPA sticker number. The rental Acadia was one of many that beat it.

 

[Wssboard18]

Prior to this thread I used to think my 4runner was a turd power wise, but I just didn't know how to drive it. I was used to my Nissan Titan where you didn't have to step on the gas very hard to get it to down shift. Now I just give my 4runner a quick jab on the gas(not full throttle) and it downshifts easily with plenty of power. It's a whole other truck now! Thanks!

 

[gm4life]

It's been a while since I drove the Acadia, so my memory is getting fuzzy! However, the performance tests I looked at shows the advantage the 4Runner has in acceleration over the Lambas is due to curb weight, not that the 1GR-FE outguns the LLT.

Example, C&D tested a 2010 FWD Enclave.
Curb: ~4900 lbs
0-60: 7.4s
1/4 mile: 15.9s

C&D tested a 2009 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4954 lbs
0-60: 7.6s
1/4 mile: 15.9s@88mph

C&D teested a 2007 AWD Acadia
Curb: 5052 lbs
0-60: 8.1s
1/ mile: 16.4@85mph

C&D tested a 2010 4Runner Trail
Curb: 4780 lbs
0-60: 7.8s
1/4 mile: 16.1s@88mph

The C&D data says the Lambdas keep up with the 4Runner when you account for curb weight (F=ma).

---
Edmunds tested a 2010 2WD SR5
Curb: 4320 lbs
0-60: 7.2s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Enclave
Curb: 5050 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4919 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

It looks like the 4Runner kicks the Lambdas around, but the base 2WD 4Runner is ~15% lighter than the GMs. Also, if you look at the test report, the 4Runner was tested when it was 54 degrees. The two Lambdas were tested when it was 83, that's about a 6% difference in density altitude (the 4Runner will make more horsepower). Taking weight and air density into account, the two vehicles are equal again.



Hopefully our 4Rrunner will loosen up and get some summer gas in her in a bit to get the mpg up past 20. So far, the 4Runner is the only vehicle I've ever driven that gets less than the EPA sticker number. The rental Acadia was one of many that beat it.

I guess I was cherry picking stats but honestly judging by the seat of my pants the 4Runner feels much faster off the line.

 

[gm4life]

It's been a while since I drove the Acadia, so my memory is getting fuzzy! However, the performance tests I looked at shows the advantage the 4Runner has in acceleration over the Lambas is due to curb weight, not that the 1GR-FE outguns the LLT.

Example, C&D tested a 2010 FWD Enclave.
Curb: ~4900 lbs
0-60: 7.4s
1/4 mile: 15.9s

C&D tested a 2009 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4954 lbs
0-60: 7.6s
1/4 mile: 15.9s@88mph

C&D teested a 2007 AWD Acadia
Curb: 5052 lbs
0-60: 8.1s
1/ mile: 16.4@85mph

C&D tested a 2010 4Runner Trail
Curb: 4780 lbs
0-60: 7.8s
1/4 mile: 16.1s@88mph

The C&D data says the Lambdas keep up with the 4Runner when you account for curb weight (F=ma).

---
Edmunds tested a 2010 2WD SR5
Curb: 4320 lbs
0-60: 7.2s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Enclave
Curb: 5050 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

Edmunds tested a 2010 AWD Traverse
Curb: 4919 lbs
0-60: 8.6s
1/4 mile: [email protected]

It looks like the 4Runner kicks the Lambdas around, but the base 2WD 4Runner is ~15% lighter than the GMs. Also, if you look at the test report, the 4Runner was tested when it was 54 degrees. The two Lambdas were tested when it was 83, that's about a 6% difference in density altitude (the 4Runner will make more horsepower). Taking weight and air density into account, the two vehicles are equal again.



Hopefully our 4Rrunner will loosen up and get some summer gas in her in a bit to get the mpg up past 20. So far, the 4Runner is the only vehicle I've ever driven that gets less than the EPA sticker number. The rental Acadia was one of many that beat it.

In town the Acadia is a bigger pig than the 4Runner at least according to my neighbors numbers.

 

[Irishperil]

FYI the Pedal Commander module to adjust the throttle sensitivity is on Amazon for $299, but BattleBornOffroad.net has it for $230.

 

[teotwaki]

Wow! A 5+ year old thread back from the dead!

After all of the correct info on how to better drive a 4Runner I half expected someone to chime in and complain about poor gas mileage if they were always mashing the gas pedal, LOL.

Can't ever really please people who don't do their own homework. :grouphug: