So has anyone ditched the cartrige engine oil filter for a canister?
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Misterquad
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BlackWorksInc
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It'd require machining/casting a new adapter plate/oil filter housing. Not you have to make sure your new assembly is similar and/or better than factory flow/pressure specifications. In the end it's more work than you'd probably want to spend to just run a spin-on filter.
Lester Lugnut
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Have not seen one and I seriously doubt any after-market provider will venture down that road.
I do not understand why people are so opposed to the newer setup.
Unscrew canister - clean it out - install new outer gasket(lube it first) - install new paper filtering element - screw canister back in. Done.
It just ain't that big a deal.
I do not understand why people are so opposed to the newer setup.
Unscrew canister - clean it out - install new outer gasket(lube it first) - install new paper filtering element - screw canister back in. Done.
It just ain't that big a deal.
Misterquad
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I love the top mounted oil filter on my Tacoma. There was no reason to drop the skids then. That is why I liked it.
I heard there was a remote mount kit but never pursued it beyond that. I also worry about all the new issues it could create. I only do it 3 times a year. But remote would be cool to me.
I heard there was a remote mount kit but never pursued it beyond that. I also worry about all the new issues it could create. I only do it 3 times a year. But remote would be cool to me.
1engineer
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Do you understand what the differences are?
1engineer
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i personally don't care for it. I believe others probably don't either. Making one from a billet would not be overly difficult for me as I make much more complex parts for a living. Was just hoping someone was on this and I could take the lazy way out
Again, do you understand the differences from a filtration flow and pressure standpoint? Check the filter media differences and especially the dirt holding capacity not to mention the flow rate and higher pressures a cannister filter provides.
Would love to see it! Got a link?
Lester Lugnut
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Go to page 5 in the thread at the bottom of this post and read harper7's comments - top of page.
Does not cover everything [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] is talking about, but gives insight into the value the Dual VVTi system brought to the table:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/116417-oil-change-5th-gen-how-lots-pics.html
Does not cover everything [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] is talking about, but gives insight into the value the Dual VVTi system brought to the table:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/116417-oil-change-5th-gen-how-lots-pics.html
1engineer
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Nope but I know why you typically go with cannister versus spin on. In addition to easier disposal you get:
Higher flow rate
Higher pressure
More dirt holding capacity
Finer filter media
And you can get it for the price of a spin on. You can get a spin on that will do all this but they are about 10X as expensive and they won't fit in the existing space.
Best solution is external cannister filter.
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Misterquad
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i personally don't care for it. I believe others probably don't either. Making one from a billet would not be overly difficult for me as I make much more complex parts for a living. Was just hoping someone was on this and I could take the lazy way out
If you find one or decide to build one I would love to hear more. I am sure you will be able to meet or exceed the necessary filter performance requirements. You sound like you can figure all that out.
My next question was where to mount the new filter location in order to benefit from the relocation. I looked but did not find where I wanted it.
I look forward to hearing more.
I miss the top mount filter as well. So easy. I would never change or remote the filter location from the way Toyota has it though. They did it for a reason I figure.
dekeman
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would anyone go through the expense and hassle and potential failure (thus voiding warranty) of changing a filtration system that is already so robust it can handle everything thrown at it? Are you planning on running the Baja?
This isn't something broken, so don't see the need to fix it.
This isn't something broken, so don't see the need to fix it.
Misterquad
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Would like to see an option if someone developed it. Of course. Would I change mine? Not likely because it would be more work to install and cost to buy than it is worth to me personally. I will likely have a different vehicle within 3 more oil changes. But since the first time I changed the oil filter I thought they need to improve this set up.
I was impressed with Tacoma setup.
I was impressed with Tacoma setup.
A spin-on sure would be more convenient. On wet sump race motors we use spin-ons which handle varying high pressures and volumes for sustained periods of time, nothing like the convenience of running an oil soaked finger around the integrated gasket then simply spinning it on and hand tightening it. Doubt it is worth it for any manufacturer to pursue a spin-on.
Misterquad
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Because we like to tinker and change things. Make them our own. We lift, mod controls, cut things. It is who we are.
Misterquad
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The thing I like about Toyota Engineering. They study what we do and try to understand what we want. They have sent Engineers to the FJ Summit. They go to truck shows. They scan the forums.
