Solo Motorsports stock length LCA's will soon be a thing!!!!
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Jaysen4runner
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Dam...i didn't know there was a few interest in the +2LT also! Lmao dont want the +3 due to fiberglass fenders, also too wide for my liking!
Dezert4Runner
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Hahah $1200 for TWO +2” over cv’s PLUS the cost of the LT kit! Jeez, no wonder why nobody makes a +2” LT kit! Honestly, nobody’s going to buy it if they’re buying cv’s at that price point (yes, I know these are an upgraded chromoly cv). Most who know about a standard 3.5” over kit know that it utilizes 1st gen Tundra cv’s, which makes it more economical. Not that I wouldn’t like to see as many options available as possible for 3rd gens, but this is always going to be a pipe dream unless the cv situation is solved first!
A stock replacement lower/upper is much more marketable if it incorporates Uniballs on both ends and pushed the tire forward in the process.
maclean216
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I'm sure you could find a cheaper solution.
The Lotus axles are worth it. I've went through 7 OEM axles prior to upgrading.
The Lotus axles are worth it. I've went through 7 OEM axles prior to upgrading.
doing what?
im a bit different as I don't use my 4runner for rock crawling im more of a desert guy who wants 4wd just so its almost 100% impossible to get stuck unless im really dumb and it also makes the 4runner girlfriend proof basically as well.
I was even told to get OEM axles and not use NAPA brand but the price of OEM was double what NAPA axles were so I went that route.
I think for this run, they are planning on just making a stock replacement that works with factory LBJ's. If anything, I think it would be easier to just upgrade the stock LBJ's to uniballs.
As for the +2" LT, if there's enough interest in it, someone should contact Solo and see if it's something they would be willing to do. I'm betting if there's at least 5 people interested, they might be willing to do a limited production run. :shrug:
Tyler James Inc
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3rd gen 4Runners aren't exactly an ideal platform for a desert rig, so maybe not for 4Runners. Tacoma's though? I'd bet there is a market there.
You really think $600/axle is really that much? When it comes to building a proper LT setup, I really don't think $600/axle is crazy at all.
I mean, you can easily spend over $600 on a set of bump stops.
Dezert4Runner
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It is when the context was regarding bolting in extended length upper/ lower arms and having to source cv’s to match. Building a proper LT setup is generally not done all at once. Of course you’d have to run longer c/o’s, and can add hydro bumps, secondary (bypass) shocks, engine caging, etc etc but I was referring to the cost just to get started. Assuming the +2” arms cost as much as their regular +3.5” kit, it would be even more expensive to get into the +2” kit because the cv’s cost 2-3 times as much. $600 per is fine for an upgraded chromaly cv for people who wheel hard, but it is steep when it’s the only option to get into an already expensive kit. I guess if you’re dropping over 2k for an LT kit, you wouldn’t consider an additional $600 per cv expensive!
do you have a build thread? is your 4runner caged front to back?
I might think about starting my engine cage this summer. Just curious what you have going on.
Dezert4Runner
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Nope to both questions lol.
marcus clarkus
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Just curious, what does product testing entail for you? Do you make a few sets and then ride them hard?
I'm curious because I do a lot of design and testing with small parts (not automotive related). I start by creating design targets, then do lots of FEA, then validate those FEA simulations with CNC parts on our pull tester or cyclic fatigue equipment. The process works great because all the loads are under 400 lbf so fixturing is a cakewalk. All that just seems unreasonable for automotive components unless you have millions to blow on R&D... so how do you scale the testing down (financially) and still know your product is good enough?
For me, product testing would basically just entail FEA and real life testing on my truck. I wouldn't be able to do any measurable testing to failure (fatigue testing, tensile strength testing, etc.) so it probably wouldn't be acceptable by automotive industry standards but it would be good enough for me. After thinking about it a little more, i probably wouldn't sell any to avoid any possible lawsuits until I can figure out a way to put it through more legitimate testing.
AssBurns
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Depending on the cost of a set of arms, I feel that there would be a decent market if there were options for hydro bumps, limit strap tabs and secondary shock tabs. If those options aren't there, then I really don't see that much of a point in upgrading the LCA. For 99.9% of the people on here, what do you need in a LCA that has all the same features as stock but beefier? If you really need more strength, you are probably running your rig hard enough to need limit straps, secondary shock and upgraded bump stops.
Personally, my reason for getting these arms is because I wanted a beefier replacement for stock arms since I have already broken two sets. I have heard of a few other people doing the same. And while I do push my rig relatively hard, I don't think I would ever need to run a secondary shock or a hydro-bump. If I am going to be spending that much money on another set of shocks, hydro bumps, limit straps and all those goodies, I would rather just go full blown LT. Comparatively speaking, it wouldn't be that much more expensive.
Having said that, I just talked to Carl from Solo and he said he is looking into making all of those features an available option for the arms. I also asked him to look into making bolt on Uniball replacements for our LBJ's for anyone who doesn't want to spend over $1500 on their custom spindles lol. He said they are looking into the feasibility of making their uniball kit work with our stock spindles.
AssBurns
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I guess it really depends on the cost of the LCA. If it were cheap enough to reasonably make the swap, I would consider it without all the extra options besides limit strap tabs, I would definitely want those. But if I'm going to be spending thousands of dollars for some upgraded LCA's, I'd want to be able to run a secondary shock or hydro bump stop.
When you broke your stock LCA's, were they OEM or aftermarket stuff? I broke a non-oem first trip out but haven't broken an OEM one yet.
They were autozone arms so that was admittedly a huge factor in why they broke, but aside from that, the design is not ideal. I don't like how the forged piece is just riveted into the arms. I wanted a set of arms that I wouldn't have to worry about at all.
NWFL4Runner
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uniball LBJ for the stock spindles would be amazing. Considering how many of us run aftermarket UCAs, I imagine they'd sell out fast as hell.
