Sony RX100

Thai

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I deleted the previous thread about the RX100 because i did not want to waste more space on the server regarding this camera. This thread is purely about the RX100 and links/facts about it.

SonyStyle Product page: Sony Cyber-shot RX100 Camera | DSC-RX100/B | Sony USA

RX100 User Guide: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DSCRX100_guide_EN.pdf

F1.8 Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* lens: (both are very interesting read!)

- F1.8 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T*

- http://www.sony-mea.com/microsite/d...l?HPID=carlZeissLensMicrosite:DSLR:Thumbnails

Developer's Interview: http://www.sony.com.sg/microsite/cybershot/rx100/pdf/performance.pdf

Nice YouTube video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v-QOrsPqjf4
 
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SteveHuffPhoto: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/07/26/the-sony-rx100-digital-camera-review/

Ming Thein Review: http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/08/06/the-sony-rx100-a-somewhat-comparative-review/

EOSHD: Sony RX100 review | EOSHD.com

Luminous Landscape: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_rx100.shtml

DigitalCameraInfo: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Sony-Cyber-shot-RX100-Digital-Camera-Review.htm

Pop Photo: http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2012/08/tested-sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx100-compact-camera

Imaging Resource: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 Camera - Review

Photography Bay: http://www.photographybay.com/2012/11/01/sony-rx100-review/

Photography Blog: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/sony_cybershot_dsc_rx100_review/

Photoblog: http://jimmartinphotoblog.blogspot.de/2013/03/testing-sony-rx100-at-zoo.html

Tested In-Depth: http://www.tested.com/tech/photography/452614-tested-depth-sony-cyber-shot-rx100-review/

Sony Alpha-lab: http://sonyalphalab.com/product-review/sony-rx100-hands-on-review/ and http://sonyalphalab.com/2013/02/sony-dsc-rx100-a-camera-for-the-real-world/

PCMAG: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407795,00.asp

CNET: Review: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 - Cameras - CNET Asia

Pocket-lint: Sony Cyber-shot RX100 review - Pocket-lint

Gizmag: http://www.gizmag.com/review-sony-cyber-shot-rx100/25266/

Techradar: Sony RX100 review | Compact cameras Reviews | TechRadar

The Verge: http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3187725/sony-rx100-review

Hindustand Times: http://www.hindustantimes.com/technology/Gadgets-Reviews/Review-Sony-RX100/SP-Article1-958514.aspx

Gizmodo: http://us.gizmodo.com/5931587/sony-...andedly-makes-point+and+shoots-relevant-again

Techhive: http://www.techhive.com/article/2013850/review-sony-cyber-shot-rx100-digital-camera.html

T3: http://www.t3.com/reviews/sony-rx100-review

Other reviews: sony rx100 | Camera Reviews
 
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MUST have accessory for the RX100: Richard Franiec's Camera Accessories
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More pics of the grip: https://picasaweb.google.com/RichardFraniec/SonyRX100CustomGrip?authkey=Gv1sRgCIyql_SH0Z2WCw#
 
Thai, great info and great camera. I picked it up 2 months ago. I've been waiting a compact P&S to replace my Sony DSC-V1 that still had the manual controls, had more features and would fit in jeans pockets. This camera fit the bill perfectly and I am indeed happy with it.

I am sure you know about DPreview's Sony Forums but I didn't see a link to it above Sony Cyber-shot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review. The RX100 has been the hot topic over there for some time now.

For just over $700 I purchased all the following...Sony DSC-RX100, 32GB Patriot LX Series Class 10 SDHC, eBay 2pc 1600mAh NP-BX1 Battery + Car/AC Charger + Mini Tripod, Swiss Gear Jasper Medium Camera Case and of course the Richard Franiec Custom Grip.

Buy it from the Sony education store for 10% off and free shipping https://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/s...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666459357

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J.A., i got it thru eBay via Authorized Sony Dealer: Sony DSC RX100 20 2 Megapixel 3 6X Zoom 32GB Digital Camera Bundle 027242856110 | eBay

I got above at $659. The only regret from above package deal was the carrying case...truly a POS case. I ended up going to Walmart and getting a cheap Caselogic case. For me, i am happy with using the camera to charge my battery. The OEM battery is my backup while the aftermarket one is my main battery...so that i can abuse the crap out of the aftermarket one.

So far, i am very happy with it...the more time i spend with it, the more impress i am with it. Of course, i am not a professional...and i have spent time with compact P&S only...no DSLR experience.

Compared to my Canon S95, the RX100 is superior by a significant margin. My wife loves the pics that i take now of the kids!! She is wondering why our kids look so much better now! :D
 
Good deal even if you had to get another case. About the same as I paid when you add in the extra battery and grip. I like the off camera charger so when I am on an overnight trip I can charge two batteries at the same time while sleeping. They say you can get 300 pics per battery charge but I find it to be significantly less. That can be due to me playing around with all the new features though.
 
JA,

From my experience with my Canon S95, the Li-ion batteries hold charge for a very long time. So, every so often, i would charge my backup (OEM) battery and it will hold charge for a long time. I do abuse my main (aftermarket) battery by frequent charging.

Yeah, i have been wanting to buy the RX100 for a long time...was waiting and waiting until the prices go down...until couldn't wait any longer and bite the bullet!

For me, i am pretty basic at this stage. These are the modes that i use the most:

iAuto mode: most common setting that i use for general photos...and also when i take videos

iAuto+ mode: stationary objects, which is quite good since it does the HDR thing (taking multiple consecutive pics and processing it)

SCN + Sports Action: for my kids running around (anything sporty)

SCN + Macro: for close-ups

"A" Mode: if i want to force the blurring of the background

But, for me, iAuto mode does a pretty good job on anticipating when i want to blur the background that i rarely use Aperture ("A") mode.

Any advice for me?
 
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I am no expert either, just getting used to this model as well. I have not played with the video yet but understand it works very well. I really like SCN-Night Portrait for the nice soft flash it gives off. And don't forget that the flash can be hand tilted for a bounce effect. I use macro a lot but am having a hard time getting everything I want in focus since this camera seems to be very good at background defocusing, a little to much sometimes. HDR features come in handy, much easier than post processing with my old V1.
 
Wow, this past New Year, i took lots of pics with the RX. Indoor. Night. Flash enabled. Wow! The pics came out great! In fact, it came out better than my brother's Nikon D5000. He's had it for 2-3 years i believe. Of course, my other brother's Canon D5 MKIII was just simply jaw-dropping! I used mostly Portrait Mode because Auto mode kept on kicking me into Night mode. I love the RX!

The problem is that i can't post the pics here because of file size...and i think Photobucket degrades the quality when i uploaded it. :(
 
I know this isn't about the Sony RX1000, but do you have any experience with any rugged cameras? Such as shock proof, water resistant/proof, etc.? Something that can take a beating while offroading and will survive if I drop it in the snow or on a rock?
 
No experience on my end. For me, I use my iphone, which is plenty tough since I encase it. With off-roading, you want video more than still pics. As such, any top end smartphones should take 1080p video. Smartphone is good for these things because it kills two birds with one stone (phone & camera). Getting in/out of your truck is hard enough while on the trail...no need to carry extra equipment on your body.
 
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No experience on my end. For me, I use my iphone, which is plenty tough since I encase it. With off-roading, you want video more than still pics. As such, any top end smartphones should take 1080p video.

I use an old flip phone and it doesn't even take good pictures let alone video.

Eventually I'll get a GoPro but that is more for vehicle mounted videos. A nice small pocket camera that does good pics and vids and is still tough would be a good choice for me.
 
Benchmark-like testing of RX100: DxOMark - Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100

A few interesting tidbits:

- Basically, compare to other P&S, this one is number one by a long shot.

- With a DxOMark Landscape score of 12.4EV, the 1" CMOS sensor offers a high dynamic range for a digital compact. It ranks 32nd in the standings, tied with the APS-C sensor of the X100, and even surpasses several older-generation full-format reflexes such as the Nikon D700 and D3, and the Sony Alpha 850. By way of comparison, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II measured 11.9EV.

- The strengths of the Sony RX100 sensor:

* The best color depth of all expert compacts with a zoom lens
* The largest dynamic range of all expert compacts with a zoom lens
* Significant progress relative to the 2011-generation 1-inch Nikon 1 sensors
* Sensitivity equivalent to the Nikon 1 despite 8 additional megapixels on the same sensor

- But Sony's 1" CMOS sensor distinguishes itself not only by its large size and by providing the best sensitivity among the expert compact cameras (G1 X excepted), it also achieves record-breaking color depth and dynamic range in its category.

- ...it also encroaches on the territory of certain compact hybrids such as the Nikon 1 J1, J2, and V1, all more bulky and an entire generation behind this new sensor designed by Sony engineers (who are obviously the most inspired in the entire industry).
 
I know this isn't about the Sony RX1000, but do you have any experience with any rugged cameras? Such as shock proof, water resistant/proof, etc.? Something that can take a beating while offroading and will survive if I drop it in the snow or on a rock?

I had an Olympus Stylus Tough (can't remember the model) and accidentally left it out in the desert someplace in Red Rocks. I wasn't really that heartbroken. I loved the fact that it was so durable, but the quality of pics sucked (granted I have a full pro SLR setup). This was about three years ago, so the quality of pics out of those things I assume has gotten better. How much I don't know.
 
Ha the man to ask!

So...with the little one (20 months) lugging around the 40D with all the goodies is just not fun anymore. Looking to get something that will perform great, but that will not break the bank. Something that is easy enough to toss in a small case or the pocket. I want the camera to have decent low light ability so I want something with a faster lens, would rather not have to rely on the higher ios. Doing a quick bit of looking I am leaning towards the Canon G15, but I'm still open for suggestion. I would like to keep the cost to $500 or less (unless one is just a bit more money and what you gain is really worth it). I do not care about a swivel LCD screen.

The RX100 does seem tempting too from what I have seen too.

I know the CES show is this coming up week, something new one show up then, so waiting until that is over to make my decision. If nothing new pops up I would like to be able to order right after though.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!
 
For me, coming from Canon S95, sensor size and lens make all the difference, esp low light and blurry background. G15 still has a tiny sensor. I can tell you that the Carl Zeiss lens is amazing! Colors and dynamic range is amazing!
 
Looking to get something that will perform great, but that will not break the bank. Something that is easy enough to toss in a small case or the pocket. I want the camera to have decent low light ability so I want something with a faster lens, would rather not have to rely on the higher ios. Doing a quick bit of looking I am leaning towards the Canon G15, but I'm still open for suggestion. I would like to keep the cost to $500 or less (unless one is just a bit more money and what you gain is really worth it). I do not care about a swivel LCD screen.

Ok, i have more time now to give a better answer (i think). The biggest obstacle for you (or anyone) is...can you part way with $650 for the Sony point & shoot (RX100)?? If not, then this post is irrelevant. Sony RX100 is damn expensive...and one of the main reason why I hesitated in buying it. Lets be honest...$650 for a P&S borders on being ridiculous. No horseshoe. No real viewfinder.

Lets talk about the Canon G15. According to DxOMark, it is about the same level as Canon S110. Here is their conclusion:

"This is a good result overall and when considering the G15’s other features such as the flexibility of the new high-speed zoom and reduction in size over previous iterations it’s a extremely well-balanced and attractive package. For consumers the choice remains whether to spend more on an equivalent micro four-thirds camera with a number of lenses to match the same kind of flexibility or whether to restrict that versatility somewhat by selecting a more compact model such as the S110. Alternatively, you could consider the G1X or Sony RX100, both offer superior low–light performance with only a small premium to pay in both size and price."


Frankly, if you want Canon, then either get S110 or G1X. G1X has a huge sensor, but very slow lens and uber expensive. S110 is compact and gives good picture quality, on par with G15. In addition, S110 is reasonably priced.

What the Sony RX100 has that is unique is damn good picture quality (on par with G1X) and equally portable as S110. Picture quality should easily beat G15 under similar conditions.

Now, the only real P&S that has a chance against the RX100 is the Panasonic LX7, which is probably YOUR best choice if you want to stay below $500. LX7 has a small sensor (same as G15), but its lens (Leica) is damn amazing...allowing it to almost match RX100 in IQ. That is very impressive given the small sensor. Leica also makes a clone of the LX7 but price it much higher (for the name). The LX7 is surprisingly slightly bigger than RX100.

LX7 DPreview: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx7/

LX7 Cameralabs review: Panasonic LX7 review | Cameralabs

Very good camera!! RX100 and LX7 were my finalist...very close. I chose the RX100 simply because it is slightly more compact and big sensor. And in general, with most professional reviews, the RX100 came out slightly on top in terms of IQ. But, RX100 is also around $200 more expensive (market value). :( And yeah, the F1.8 Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* lens are simply amazing!! (Note: Sony also has Carl Zeiss lens on their cheaper P&Ss, but they are different class [Vario-Tessar].)

IMHO, i would dump the Canon G15 and get LX7, unless you really need zoom...similar price, same sensor size, and much better lens on the LX7 (by renowned Leica). But, if you're willing to spend $650, then i would get RX100, bar none.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: from 1st page of this thread is a comparo by DPreview: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2367736880/roundup-enthusiast-zoom-compact-cameras

This should give you most information that you need.
 
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