Spare tire is stuck under the truck.

Morania

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I went to lower my spare tire from its hanger thingy under the rear of my 87 and it's pretty good and frozen up there. No amount of Kroil or PB Blaster is helping.

Before I do anything crazy, should I look around for an alternative mounting point to remove this. Can I get to it from the deck floor?
 
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I had the same problem with an old pickup of mine. Seem to remember using bolt cutters. Never fixed anything, just threw it in the back. As I recall, the chain had rusted solid. You might want to try prying on the wheel as someone tries to crank it down, it might break loose.
Good luck with it.
 
That's kinda what I figured I'd end up doing. This runner was used on the beach and I'm pretty sure the winder is seized up for good, unless I can get it to a bench.

This is probably a good time to ask if there are any swinging tire carriers for my tail gate. Even if it comes off of another type of vehicle, I might be able to mod it on there. Another option is on the grill like a Land Rover. Not on the roof....I haul kayaks up there.
 
I know that there are some bumpers that have the tire carrier built on, I would also be interested in finding something that mounts to the tailgate.
 
I have had this happen with all my first gen runners (all 4 of them) The easiest way I've found to get the spare down; is to cut the bar in half that goes across the hole in the center of the wheel using a recriprocating saw. Be sure to place a jack with a block of wood under the wheel before cutting. The origonal mechanisim bolts to the frame and can be replaced at this point. I have seen several rear bumpers with swing out tire carriers built in. For these trucks. I'm sure some other members can help with finding one.
 
I would love to have someone reply that all I have to do is go to the wreckers and find a ??????????, remove the swing out rear tire carrier and it will fit the 4Runner. Anyone.... anyone.... :biggrin2:
 
Yeah, I hear you, but these trucks are built really well compared to anything else in their class. The bottom line is they were never designed to carry the weight of a spare tire anywhere on the body. So there are no provisions to mount one easily. Unless you buy one of the Bad A$$ rear bumpers with the carriers built in. Or fabricate one yourself? I personally wouldn't want the weight of a spare tire bolted on to any of the body panels on my vehicle. Just my.02
 
Front rack

The more I've been examining the problem, the more I think I might modify and old Ford front grill guard to be braced from the top of my grill framing as well as firmly bolted to the underside of same. Then I'll get some big stainless U-bolts from work and stick my tire up there.
A little deer catcher.
I've been looking for swing racks from the backs of old Blazers and Broncos (little ones) and figure to use milled oak as backing to mount one if I find it.
I'm not crazy about dropping a load of dough at the local fab shop but if I have to........
 
First off the notion of mounting it in front of your grill is not only dumb (how are you too keep your truck from overheating from lack of air flow) But also very poor in taste. Second cut it off and go to a pull yard. The same mounting hoist unit can be found not only under the 4runners but also the 2wd and 4wd pickups and also 80's model cruisers. Most car manufacturers are not going to make a bunch of different mechanisms if the same thing can be applied to different vehicles. Prime example. My arm rests are out of an 88 corolla... And no I did NOT modify them to fit. TPS sensor I pulled out of 84 celica, etc.

If your not into the financial aspect of it best route is just to replace what is there. But rigging something from another vehicle will not work. There are structure points required and granted trees are strong but not long term practical. Imagine hitting a bump just right and the entire rack coming off the truck tire included and hitting another vehicle or injuring someone then what?
 
zombie said:
I figure that I will end up with a fabbed rear bumper with a tire carrier on it.

Kennesaw Mountain Accessories are the only fabricator of rear bumpers for the 1st gen 4runners that I have been able to find. They make them with or without a spare tire carrier. I've seen many complaints about how slow they are but they delivered mine as promised. I bought one without the tire carrier. It is a heavy bumper but you have to weld the brackets on so you're into a bit of mild fabrication even with one of their bumpers.

Website link:

http://www.kenmtn.com/html/multi-carrier.asp
 
The bit about putting the tire on the front comes from the tire racks I saw on the Rovers and Yota pick-ups the Brits and others are using in Afghanistan. It shouldn't pose a problem as long as there is a space between the tire and grille. There's a little fan under there that actually pulls air through the radiator. They put those on there so we don't have to keep the vehicle moving forward the whole while the engine is running. It will allow you to stop in traffic and such without overheating. Check it out sometime. I think you may even have one on your engine.

The wood idea needed elaboration. The wood (oak, tiger teak, and etc.), stiffened with t-bar and grooves will go behind the flimsy Japanese sheet metal to firm it up. In the day or so since that post, I've been into the back while I worked on my tailgate and found that this, and milling the shims is a viable idea. This type of construction works well in brutal marine conditions. I could use a fab'd brace but I'm capable of forming to wood to the exact shape of the sheet metal and it will fill those spaces well.

Financial aspect? The three little dots after the sentence mean that the sentence is wide open, probably meaning that if this gets too tricky, I'll get the Welder Valla a mile up the road here to work me up two new dandy pipe bumpers and racks. But working this out myself is part of the fun. We're here to have fun. Remember?

Bad taste? You're the one with the hot lime mini truck.

Call me dumb all you want. I wasn't asking for approval; just kicking ideas around to hear some other suggestions, if available. This was going to happen whether I met you or not.

Always gotta be one in the forum who feels a need to run the newbs off.
 
It's your truck, you should modify it any way you like. Everyone has different taste. I would like to see some pictures of what you come up with when it's complete.
 
Thang ya fer the s'port.

You can see from my avatar that it's kinda plain old vanilla right now. By now, she's been rolled on her side once and the sea water is taking its toll on the lower sheet metal.

But, I've got my list ready. When it's done, I want it to look ready for a West Asian tundra/desert. Freak the neighbors out. I just wish they had the gun rings at JC Whitney. :gun:

There will be pics. Probably a web site. I had links to some before/after 4Runners that were way cool.
 
Morania said:
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This is probably a good time to ask if there are any swinging tire carriers for my tail gate. there.

there is a guy on this site, AddictedOffroad, makes some very nice rear mounting tire carriers. i would go with that option, but then again, i like having the big back window to look out for speedy backups, and its also good for regular driving to see behind you. lol his site is www.addictedoffroad.com.


. But, I've got my list ready. When it's done, I want it to look ready for a West Asian tundra/desert. Freak the neighbors out. I just wish they had the gun rings at JC Whitney.
lmfao. thats hilarious. my mom is going to give my her ford explorer when she gets a new truck for me to trash, and im going to take a grinder and a few cutoff wheels, and going to cut off the back and weld on, in addition to a roll cage, and swiveling potatoe gun mount. stupid cows think they can come on my land and eat my grass and break my fences. bah. dont think they will be coming around too much longer. but some before and after pics are going to be sweet. keep up the good work man....
 
If you really think the mechanical fan behind your two core radiator is sufficient enough to keep you from overheating your motor and causing HG failure... Please do not post what should I do next since I just blew the HG...

So please go ahead get some 2x4 nail it to your grill and use some drywall screws with miss matched washers and mount your spare tire to the 2x4. While you are at it why not kick on the a/c if it still even works and go for a cruise down the Highway and pull off and get yourself immersed in stop and go traffic. You should easily be able to sustain this for a few trips. After all you do drive a completly stock and moderately rusted 4runner.

Oh and as for color asthetics has nothing to do with mechanics..

Have a good day DAN....
 

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