jharpphoto
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Looks like the moonroof is only available in the trail premium. Can a moonroof be had in a standard trail configuration?
standard trail with moonroof
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PitbullRescuer
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I think the only way to do that is to have one dealer installed. Mine has a moonroof though and I can count on one finger how many times I've opened it. When it's hot out, I find it just cooks my head. I usually ride around with the windows down and the rear hatch window down. Moves plenty of air though the truck.
ic0517
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For 2013 there was no Premium, and Trail came with moonroof, whether you wanted it or not.
Have you sat in one with a moonroof? Depending on where you put the seat, your head could be like 1 inch from the lining. Then in the second row there is this funky bump thing.
Seems like where ever I park between our house and my work, there are seagulls and pigeons. I only open the moon roof to demonstrate to my neighbor while he spends an hour futzing around with his wrangler roof, or get a rise out of the kids. I would rather have the head room.
Far as I know, the only way to get heated seats and no moon roof is TRD Pro.
Have you sat in one with a moonroof? Depending on where you put the seat, your head could be like 1 inch from the lining. Then in the second row there is this funky bump thing.
Seems like where ever I park between our house and my work, there are seagulls and pigeons. I only open the moon roof to demonstrate to my neighbor while he spends an hour futzing around with his wrangler roof, or get a rise out of the kids. I would rather have the head room.
Far as I know, the only way to get heated seats and no moon roof is TRD Pro.
Jetboy
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I didn't want the moon roof, but as has been said, it was not an option to delete with a trail premium. I'd rather have extra head room. OTOH, I do use it a lot when the weather allows. Fall is a good time for it. My only real complaint is that it would be nicer if it were bigger and/or they had a second row sunroof as well.
Foques
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jharpphoto
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hmm this complicates my decision. Didn't want to spend the $$$ on a premium. Maybe windows down is enough. Coming from a Jeep JKU where the whole top comes off I'm a little spoiled.
I too came from a JKU and trust me all windows down and the back window down, no sun beating on your head and the ability to zip everything up with the touch of a button..... I don't miss the Jeep
jharpphoto
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No you sir are the guy I need to talk to. I still have my jeep and the JK will have to go to help fund the 4runner. I really have loved the jeep but it has no power windows, door locks, seats or any creature comforts. Even so I have really enjoyed it with the doors off and top off. I've been a little torn that I would regret selling the jeep since you can't go topless in a 4runner. Help ease my discomfort.
had an 07JKU built on 37s. Traded it on a 2011 SR5 4runner.... thought I missed it, after 3 years traded the 4runner in on a 2015 JKU.... lasted a month and I went back to a 2015 4runner. Jeeps are fun, but the 4runner is hands down a better vehicle. "Im Dagnabit and I have Direct TV. Don't be Jeep Owning Dagnabit and settle for cable"
One of the best things about the 4Runner is the combo of the moonroof and the rear window. If you're driving on the freeway and want some fresh air, you can roll down the rear window a few inches, then open the moonroof and you' get fresh air from back to front without all the noise you would get if you roll down the side windows. Even if you don't open it much, I really like the amount of light it adds to the cabin. I'm 6'2" and fit in my '14 TEP without issue.
Speedy Gomez
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jharpphoto
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Hey it's only money, right?
jharpphoto
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I'm sure I'm opening a can of angry worms here but I see in your signature line you mention you are the future owner of a 2016 4runner without KDSS. I guess there is a love hate relationship with this feature. Why you got's da hate for KDSS?
jdtaylor42
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I didn't have a JKU but I did sell my built TJ to get a Trail 4R and after wheeling with it a few times I don't think I will miss the Jeep at all. I did like being able to take the doors and top off but quite a few times on longer trips I got caught in bad weather so I think it will be a lot safer to wheel in the 4R.
Also we opted for regular trail because in previous vehicles with moonroofs I found that I only used it maybe once or twice a year. Most of the time I honestly forgot it was even there. Guess you just have to gauge how often you would actually use it.
Also we opted for regular trail because in previous vehicles with moonroofs I found that I only used it maybe once or twice a year. Most of the time I honestly forgot it was even there. Guess you just have to gauge how often you would actually use it.
Speedy Gomez
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I don't have much experience with KDSS off road, but on road, it keeps you amazingly stable when taking corners.
However, there are 3 reasons I would never own another vehicle with it again.
1. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/160261-14-te-guys-weird-noise.html
2. $1,500 to replace the rear actuator and bleed the system (@80k miles)
3. Most places don't have the tools and experience to properly troubleshoot and work on that system. Not all Toyota dealerships can work on it, and if you do find one that does, the tech likely has very little experience working on it. You are pretty much stuck going to a Toyota or Lexus dealership.
Does that answer your question? Do a research.
jharpphoto
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Gee thanks. I've seen these posts I just was checkin on your personal experience/opinions. Thanks for the info.
