Steering wheel vibration Poll

[cognus]

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that TSB shows an impressive amount of work they are willing to to through to "reduce" steering flutter. yikes.

one of the above mentioned Tacoma, and obviously this TSB regards LX460's. My 4th gen T4R has similar 'phantom' vibe that moves around, goes away, returns, in a seeming random pattern, but always at speeds of about 65 to 80.
RE-balance of tires will change the pattern a little, but it never goes away. To me, paying way too much attention to the issue over the same roads at same speeds at same times of day with same [approx] 'warm-up' time, it seems like a "sympathetic vibration" being produced - a harmonic maybe involving the driveshaft, tires, wheels, steering rack, linkage to steering wheel.

A question for you who suffer; do you notice the same vibe affecting the floor of the vehicle, as though it were emanating from the rear wheels? if you watch the back of the passenger front seat its a pretty good gauge... you'll see it vibrating at the top.

I notice the vibe also is much affected by the road surface. Seems that when it gets 'aggravated' it will continue for a long ways until the road changes or I stop for a snack or something, then it may disappear for awhile.

 

[tm965]

that TSB shows an impressive amount of work they are willing to to through to "reduce" steering flutter. yikes.

one of the above mentioned Tacoma, and obviously this TSB regards LX460's. My 4th gen T4R has similar 'phantom' vibe that moves around, goes away, returns, in a seeming random pattern, but always at speeds of about 65 to 80.
RE-balance of tires will change the pattern a little, but it never goes away. To me, paying way too much attention to the issue over the same roads at same speeds at same times of day with same [approx] 'warm-up' time, it seems like a "sympathetic vibration" being produced - a harmonic maybe involving the driveshaft, tires, wheels, steering rack, linkage to steering wheel.

A question for you who suffer; do you notice the same vibe affecting the floor of the vehicle, as though it were emanating from the rear wheels? if you watch the back of the passenger front seat its a pretty good gauge... you'll see it vibrating at the top.

I notice the vibe also is much affected by the road surface. Seems that when it gets 'aggravated' it will continue for a long ways until the road changes or I stop for a snack or something, then it may disappear for awhile.

that is exactly what i've been experiencing.

 

[Axix23]

I did a tire rotation and no more steering wheel vibes. The problem about these steering wheel vibes is its not 100% of the time and it just depends on the road surface/etc.

 

[tm965]

I did a tire rotation and no more steering wheel vibes. The problem about these steering wheel vibes is its not 100% of the time and it just depends on the road surface/etc.

this simply means your slightly out of balance tire(s) are now on the rear axle. look for vibrations in the cabin and in your seat now at highway speeds

 

[tjnptel1]

I have a 2019 ORP with TRD Pro wheels and Duratec tires and the wobble between 60mph to 70mph is scary.. but after or before that range, it's smooth as butter. I only have 2500 miles, will bring it to their attention during the 5,000 mile service.

 

[brianrride]

My steering wheel wobble was fixed with the RFB. However, I am still having steering wheel vibrations from 60mph +. Its minor but its driving me crazy.

FWIW...I've never, ever, in many years had a national brand tire store be able to satisfy me when it comes to tire balancing on Toyotas. Since that has been my luck, I now use the dealership only and have had better results. Not 100%, but they get it really close. Perhaps their tire machines are calibrated more often? I don't think it's a tech issue from what I've seen.

 

[tm965]

FWIW...I've never, ever, in many years had a national brand tire store be able to satisfy me when it comes to tire balancing on Toyotas. Since that has been my luck, I now use the dealership only and have had better results. Not 100%, but they get it really close. Perhaps their tire machines are calibrated more often? I don't think it's a tech issue from what I've seen.

likely bc the dealers use the hub centric haweka adapter

 

[LIT4R]

I just had Penn Toyota in Roslyn, New York perform a road-force balance because my steering wheel wobble on my 18 off-road was driving me nuts. Anytime I hit 60+ the wheel would shake like mad. It's much better now. I still have some vibration but the wobble has been eliminated. Hoping it stays as I've seen people's wobble return after a little while.

 

[BCMUSA]

FWIW...I've never, ever, in many years had a national brand tire store be able to satisfy me when it comes to tire balancing on Toyotas. Since that has been my luck, I now use the dealership only and have had better results. Not 100%, but they get it really close. Perhaps their tire machines are calibrated more often? I don't think it's a tech issue from what I've seen.

Mine as at the dealership now and they're supposed to do a balance on it.

I don't know yet if they're doing the road force balance, or just regular type.

I will report back later on how my 4runner feels.

 

[BchBum]

So about 600 miles into owning my 4Runner I had stock size p-rated Duratracs installed. I noticed just a slight shake from time to time.
Then, I had the stock wheels removed for some Method's in 17x8.5 size...have yet to get rid of the steering wheel vibration. 3 times between the off-road shop and Discount Tire re-balancing them...No avail.

I'm assuming my Duratracs don't do well with the Methods. Not sure what I should do either...keeping trying to get them balanced or change out tires and/or wheels.

 

[tm965]

Mine as at the dealership now and they're supposed to do a balance on it.

I don't know yet if they're doing the road force balance, or just regular type.

I will report back later on how my 4runner feels.

unless you ask for road force balance... they wont do it, at least at my toyota dealer. It's likely that your shit is going to be a lot more ****ed up than when you dropped it off.

 

[BCMUSA]

unless you ask for road force balance... they wont do it, at least at my toyota dealer. It's likely that your shit is going to be a lot more ****ed up than when you dropped it off.

That is my concern.

Actually all I told them was to check steering wheel for vibration and check my brakes because I am getting pulsation on the brake pedal when braking.

I checked the status online and it says "PERFORM FOUR WHEEL BALANCE"

I was thinking crap, it'll probably be worse now.

It's been at the dealership since last Wednesday, still no word on it.

They gave me a loaner so I am not too upset about it.

I found a local mom and pop shop near me, I think after I get it back I will take it to them and have them RFB and do alignment with the recommended +4 caster on each side that's recommended by members on here.

 

[Magnetic-T4R]

I bought my 2013 about 3 months ago give or take. 90K miles. Had a slight shimmy in the steering. I knew I was about to lift it so I didn't fret it much however balancing/rotating the tires didn't fix it. Fast forward to post lift 3/2 bilstein, new 285s with new wheels and upper control arms and obviously an alignment ...no more wobble. Was it the tires or wheels? Was it the ball joints in the uca's? Was it the alignment? We will never know. True as can be now.

 

[cognus]

I like the caster reset idea. Hadn’t thought of that. Also, i read about some having a rear axle alignment off-square from the factory but I had a rear passenger side bearing replaced @ dealer and never thought of whether axle was aligned correctly. I noticed no such shimmy/vibe before this.

Article here has a lot of what already posted here but there are a few new twists. All late model t4r Toyota 4Runner Questions - What will cause a steering wheel shimmy at 60-65mph other than tires, ... - CarGurus

 

[cortney76]

New tires fixed my issue

 

[Axix23]

this simply means your slightly out of balance tire(s) are now on the rear axle. look for vibrations in the cabin and in your seat now at highway speeds

maybe so but I don't feel any vibes in the rear or in my seat. lol

 

[pumacat24]

I bought my 2013 about 3 months ago give or take. 90K miles. Had a slight shimmy in the steering. I knew I was about to lift it so I didn't fret it much however balancing/rotating the tires didn't fix it. Fast forward to post lift 3/2 bilstein, new 285s with new wheels and upper control arms and obviously an alignment ...no more wobble. Was it the tires or wheels? Was it the ball joints in the uca's? Was it the alignment? We will never know. True as can be now.

Hey [MENTION=326456]Magnetic-T4R[/MENTION] is your vibration still gone with the Bilsteins? Which did you get? 6112/6150 or 5100s?

My steering vibration is driving me NUTS at 60-65 and I'm contemplating upgrading suspension to save my relationship with my '18 TRD ORD before I do something heartbreaking and drastic by cutting ties with it.

Yes, I've done everything in my power, new tires, countless road force and alignments... this is clearly an issue Toyota is not handling, but if a new suspension makes it go away I'd be more than willing to drop some dough to keep my dream car.

 

[Magnetic-T4R]

Hey [MENTION=326456]Magnetic-T4R[/MENTION] is your vibration still gone with the Bilsteins? Which did you get? 6112/6150 or 5100s?

My steering vibration is driving me NUTS at 60-65 and I'm contemplating upgrading suspension to save my relationship with my '18 TRD ORD before I do something heartbreaking and drastic by cutting ties with it.

Yes, I've done everything in my power, new tires, countless road force and alignments... this is clearly an issue Toyota is not handling, but if a new suspension makes it go away I'd be more than willing to drop some dough to keep my dream car.

Yea, still gone so far. I have the 6112s. We are in a bit of a different boat as I was pushing 100K and I'm guessing your '18 doesn't have that many miles. Is it possible that someone could've bumped a curb hard or maybe hit a pot hole? I would lean more towards damage for you vs the wear that that was most likely the culprit for mine. I guess it could be a manufacturing defect /shrug.

Of all the things that could've fixed it for me whether it be the bushings/ball joints in the ucas, the new tires and wheels, the struts, alignment etc I would lean toward the tires. I forget what brand they were but they did have some miles and the person that owned it before me may have never balanced them. My second guess would be the alignment.

Now, that said, if you are trying to justify a lift, I would say a sweet 3/2 lift would certainly correct this issue for you. :thumb3:

 

[tm965]

Yea, still gone so far. I have the 6112s. We are in a bit of a different boat as I was pushing 100K and I'm guessing your '18 doesn't have that many miles. Is it possible that someone could've bumped a curb hard or maybe hit a pot hole? I would lean more towards damage for you vs the wear that that was most likely the culprit for mine. I guess it could be a manufacturing defect /shrug.

Of all the things that could've fixed it for me whether it be the bushings/ball joints in the ucas, the new tires and wheels, the struts, alignment etc I would lean toward the tires. I forget what brand they were but they did have some miles and the person that owned it before me may have never balanced them. My second guess would be the alignment.

Now, that said, if you are trying to justify a lift, I would say a sweet 3/2 lift would certainly correct this issue for you. :thumb3:

unfortunately a new suspension will not solve this. ask me how i know.

 

[GripT4R]

2019 SR5 4x4 with 1,300 miles. The steering wheel vibrates at approx. 65-70mph.

Its not a massive vibration, but it can be felt, and seen.

My first thought was they did a poor balancing job, but after reading this thread I see that isn't always the case.