Swing-Out Help, who's got the best design

[mmml4]

I am going to build into my rear bumper a swing-out for my spare tire
(35x12.50x16) and would like ideas, pictures, comments, good/bad experiences or whatever kind of input you have. I only want to do it once if I can. I know there are some pretty creative minds on here so let the fun begin and thanks in advance.

 

[Dirtyfingers]

I am going to build into my rear bumper a swing-out for my spare tire
(35x12.50x16) and would like ideas, pictures, comments, good/bad experiences or whatever kind of input you have. I only want to do it once if I can. I know there are some pretty creative minds on here so let the fun begin and thanks in advance.

CBI for sure, Nathan was a huge help and deffinatly a hard worker. their products look great heres a run down on my experience with them. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/general-discussions/149680-good-experience-cbi.html

 

[98OzarksRunner]

There's a good discussion here on the pros and cons of each design.

Tire Carrier Hinges - again - Page 5 - Expedition Portal

I follow maxterra's design pretty closely, right down to suppliers and part numbers.

It seems double-sheer is stronger and a problem sometimes encountered with using a trailer axle is that the axle has to be heated or when it is welded the metal at the weld crystalizes forming a weak spot. More than one trailer axle hinge has busted leaving a swing out on the ground (or my big fear - in somebody's windshield).

Here's mine (on the old 4Runner, with primer, before blasting and powder coat):

Here it's on the new truck, after powder coating:

 

[mmml4]

How about some pics without the tires mounted.

 

[Mr. B]

My tire carrier uses the hing kit from EMS offroad:

Tire Carrier Kit [TC-KIT] - $100.00 : EMS Offroad, Custom 4x4 Fabrications

 

[ajonesnv]

CBI, Hands down!! Great guys there and the design is untouchable. I built mine off of CBI's bumper with their hardware, very sturdy stuff.

 

[98OzarksRunner]

How about some pics without the tires mounted.

Here's a link to the build thread with a couple more detail pics.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/98315-budget-rear-bumper-build.html

 

[drabbits]

There's a good discussion here on the pros and cons of each design.

Tire Carrier Hinges - again - Page 5 - Expedition Portal

Wow, thanks for providing that link man! Totally enjoying it.

 

[warrpath4x4]

i buy my spindle hinges from here Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit i have built 5 bumpers using this hinge and have never had an issue. im not going to say every issue people have had with this style hinge is a bumper design flaw but the ones i have personally seen break have been poor designed bumpers. you have to support the swing arm when it is closed so it doesnt rattle, if its rattling you are getting vibrations in the arm and there fore in your spindle.

i just ordered 2 hinges this last weekend to build a double swing out for my runner.

plus MADE IN USA

 

[KidVermicious]

i buy my spindle hinges from here Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit i have built 5 bumpers using this hinge and have never had an issue. im not going to say every issue people have had with this style hinge is a bumper design flaw but the ones i have personally seen break have been poor designed bumpers. you have to support the swing arm when it is closed so it doesnt rattle, if its rattling you are getting vibrations in the arm and there fore in your spindle.

i just ordered 2 hinges this last weekend to build a double swing out for my runner.

plus MADE IN USA

I think that's the Comp4x4 hinge, isn't it? You can get it or several other designs straight from the source, here: http://www.comp4x4.com/home.php

 

[KidVermicious]

Here's a link to the build thread with a couple more detail pics.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/98315-budget-rear-bumper-build.html

That looks good. Are there bushings on the swingout hinge, or just a bolt and tabs?

 

[98OzarksRunner]

That looks good. Are there bushings on the swingout hinge, or just a bolt and tabs?

It has bronze bushings. Here's the parts list from the link at expo I posted above:

McMaster Carr (McMaster-Carr)
flange sleeve bushings (2) 6338k439
1" gr 8 bolt, 6" long 91257A969
Flat washers 98023A038
Nylock 1" 97135A038
7767T811 Steel tubing, 2" OD, 1.250 ID, .375" wall thickness, 1' length

It all came to about $65 plus shipping.

I did have to hone out the tubing to get the bushings to press in - a lot of work. A lathe would have made it much easier. I plan to drill the tubing for a grease zerk but just haven't done it yet.

 

[Bandit Runner]

It has bronze bushings. Here's the parts list from the link at expo I posted above:

McMaster Carr (McMaster-Carr)
flange sleeve bushings (2) 6338k439
1" gr 8 bolt, 6" long 91257A969
Flat washers 98023A038
Nylock 1" 97135A038
7767T811 Steel tubing, 2" OD, 1.250 ID, .375" wall thickness, 1' length

It all came to about $65 plus shipping.

I did have to hone out the tubing to get the bushings to press in - a lot of work. A lathe would have made it much easier. I plan to drill the tubing for a grease zerk but just haven't done it yet.

Good info here. I have a question about the fit of the bolt in the bushings. Is there a lot of slop between the diameter of the bolt and the inside diameter of the bushing? I know they make bolts slightly undersized than the nominal size, and shaft/bushing fits are usually very close. So how loose/tight is the fit? And does this cause any issues?

Thanks!

 

[mmml4]

Thanks for all of the replies, this is exactly the discussion I needed. I see lots of good and creative work and information here.

 

[98OzarksRunner]

Good info here. I have a question about the fit of the bolt in the bushings. Is there a lot of slop between the diameter of the bolt and the inside diameter of the bushing? I know they make bolts slightly undersized than the nominal size, and shaft/bushing fits are usually very close. So how loose/tight is the fit? And does this cause any issues?

Thanks!

The bolt fits tight in the bushings with very little play. The carrier doesn't move up and down at all (well, maybe 1/4" at the far end if I lift and push). The bushings are just a bit too large for the tubing so I had to hone out about 1/64th, which took forever since that steel is hard and I used a brake cylinder hone on a drill. In the end I sanded the outside of the bushings to take off the last little bit and pressed them in with a vise. I'd recommend sizing the inside of the tubing on a lathe if you have one - it'd be much quicker.