T4R is NOT an OFF Road Vehicle!

[shallcallhimtim]

You guys are lucky for reading this thread:
1. You own a 4Runner (maybe even 03)
2. You are now aware of an extreme flaw this car has.
3. It cost me time and money and AGONY to get it fixed
BUT Most importantly:
I am WILLING to share this knowledge and hopefully help.

I don't think power washing your interior is a flaw on the car...

What is an immobilizer flush? ive never heard of such a thing and ive been working at a Toyota dealer for a few years now...

 

[lexusnut]

so you removed the seats and interior of a vehicle and proceeded to spray the interior down and thought this was a great idea? How is your stupidity Toyota's fault?

Go buy a jeep, you're far too stupid to own something with any form of technology.

You are Not correct Sir! I made a wrong assumption! maybe a wrong choice, but YES it is an engineering miscalculation.

 

[ToyotaDoodz]

You guys are lucky for reading this thread:
1. You own a 4Runner (maybe even 03)
2. You are now aware of an extreme flaw this car has.
3. It cost me time and money and AGONY to get it fixed
BUT Most importantly:
I am WILLING to share this knowledge and hopefully help.

I don't think power washing your interior is a flaw on the car...

What is an immobilizer flush? ive never heard of such a thing and ive been working at a Toyota dealer for a few years now...

They do it with the head light fluid change. :biggrin2:

 

[lexusnut]

You guys are lucky for reading this thread:
1. You own a 4Runner (maybe even 03)
2. You are now aware of an extreme flaw this car has.
3. It cost me time and money and AGONY to get it fixed
BUT Most importantly:
I am WILLING to share this knowledge and hopefully help.

I don't think power washing your interior is a flaw on the car...

What is an immobilizer flush? ive never heard of such a thing and ive been working at a Toyota dealer for a few years now...

So what happened is this:
I called a locksmith, and in an attempt to get the car going he erased all the keys from immobilizer unit. Flushed.
Toyota had to reprogram them back in.

 

[lexusnut]

Power washing or not is irrelevant!

POWER WASHING OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT! I AM TALKING ABOUT WATER INSIDE A CABIN! HERE :dammit::dammit::dammit:

Little water is EXPECTED in an OFFROAD VEHICLE!:wacko:

and T4R needs very LITTLE to fry the ECU!

BY THE WAY I WASN'T SPRAYING THE WHOLE CAR INSIDE!:dammit: JUST THE SALT RIDDEN DRIVERS SIDE

 

[chompster4runner]

:reddance: heading out right now to power wash my ecu. Looks dusty. BRB...

 

[shallcallhimtim]

So what happened is this:
I called a locksmith, and in an attempt to get the car going he erased all the keys from immobilizer unit. Flushed.
Toyota had to reprogram them back in.

it think you mean "reset". Was he successful in deleting the keys? I think you got taken my friend because the only way to reset the keys in on TIS and techstream and you have you have a Toyota password or pay a crap ton of money to get one.

 

[lexusnut]

Soo to conclude. Offload vehicles by definition should:

-not be able to get stuck, in any condition, especially mud and snow.

-be able to be pressure washed from the inside out.

-be able to out perform most all wheel drive minivans.

-not be damaged in any way by road salts.

YES YES YES!!!! I Guess I needed a HUM-V huh?
I did look it up (after I broke my car) FREAKIN EXPENSIVE!
BUT!
Old HUM-V i can get $35000
I Bought my truck for THAT! (In 03)

SO YES DARNIT I WANT IT TO BE THE BEST OF THE BEST!
I saw 4Runner get whipped by Pathfinder on youtube.
NISSAN! I had 3 nissans ALL CRAP! and it whips my T4R in mud? Pathetic.

I can get a DAEWOO for $5k NEW or a Freakin FIAT UNO

 

[ghs215]

DON'T FORGET to do a complete FLUSH of the AIR in your TIRES... You need to swap out the winter air with fresh summer air....you will get much better performance and tire longevity :guitar2:

 

[lexusnut]

it think you mean "reset". Was he successful in deleting the keys? I think you got taken my friend because the only way to reset the keys in on TIS and techstream and you have you have a Toyota password or pay a crap ton of money to get one.

Yes I did watch him like a hawk. He used a special computer and it said ALL KEYS ERASED. After that he could not program them in.

I did not get taken by anyone anywhere except by TOYOTA Engineers who could have put some freakin dielectric grease on the connector.

ALL PEOPLE WERE VERY HELPFUL! Including TOYOTA DEALER Andrews Toyota here in Glendale WI. My hat is OFF for these guys! :drummer:
Nobody took advantage of the situation.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

So... first off, do you plan on having over an inch of standing water in the vehicle? A key's length is over an inch, there should never be that much water in the vehicle. As I said before, if you're in THAT deep of water, electronics are going to be only half the problems your running into.

The space above the connector is possibly for other junction connectors related to higher trim models. You have an SR5 which would not have as many modules and needs as say a Limited with RAS. Once again I will point out that the harness runs along the floor and can be a conduit for fluid as it is in ALL modern vehicles; of which can short out any number of modules if it gets into the junction block and/or common power sources.

Also, why is only your driver's side floorpan so badly rusted, are you purposefully dumping salt on it or something? I've seen what road salt does to vehicles and you should be seeing the same damage spread across the passenger side as well with the tunnel being fairly okay as the drivetrain takes the abuse of that.

Finally I am glad everything worked out for you in the end. Next time I would recommend you disconnect the battery before doing ANY washing of the vehicle interior and then letting it dry out properly before reassembly. It doesn't matter if its a 4Runner with a "low connector," Mercedes-Benz S Class, or a Dodge Neon; you're forcing water where its not supposed in a modern computer controlled vehicle and you're upset it has issues. That's unrealistic thinking, modern vehicles come with modern problems, dielectric grease won't stand up much against a pressure washer by the way.

 

[Code2]

Please understand that here in Wisconsin they put SALT on the roads so we don't kill each other. Salt = BAD for cars.
SALT + WATER = VERY GOOD CONDUCTOR
My ECU got fried because of a mistake by Toyota engineers.

You posted a pic of what salt does to the inside of a car and blame toyota for your issue? I live in IL we have the same weather that rust is clearly you getting into the car without rubber mats and its soaking thru the carpet. You cant blame toyota for that issue. click your boots before you get in get some rubber mats and you wont have that issue

 

[Code2]

I call bullshit. Link or it didn't happen. :moon:

as you wish

Bike won't start after using NOS fuel additive : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

 

[lexusnut]

The space above the connector is possibly for other junction connectors related to higher trim models. You have an SR5 which would not have as many modules and needs as say a Limited with RAS. Once again I will point out that the harness runs along the floor and can be a conduit for fluid as it is in ALL modern vehicles; of which can short out any number of modules if it gets into the junction block and/or common power sources.

Also, why is only your driver's side floorpan so badly rusted, are you purposefully dumping salt on it or something? I've seen what road salt does to vehicles and you should be seeing the same damage spread across the passenger side as well with the tunnel being fairly okay as the drivetrain takes the abuse of that.

Thanks!
I Know that there are other connectors for other models. I was at a junk yard and specifically looked at other cars and connector locations NONE had it this low! NONE! I am not a newbie, I create and repair computers for a living, I do have Auto-mechanics degree (finished in 1992) I know what water does to electronics.

I think the other culprit is the hard coating on metal. Water and salt leaches under it and it all came off very easy. I regularly wash and clean my car, but in winter it's just too hard. I will come up with a solution here. I will let it be known.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

as you wish

Bike won't start after using NOS fuel additive : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

I got 2 pages in when he "realized" that he put NOS Energy Drink in his bike... then I died laughing...

I don't care if its true or not... That made my day.

 

[lexusnut]

You posted a pic of what salt does to the inside of a car and blame toyota for your issue? I live in IL we have the same weather that rust is clearly you getting into the car without rubber mats and its soaking thru the carpet. You cant blame toyota for that issue. click your boots before you get in get some rubber mats and you wont have that issue

I HAVE RUBBER MATS! OEM TOYOTA RUBBER MATS and They were replaced by toyota for the new ones. They don't protect. I did not do anything to this car in 10 years. Just oil changes. Now its in for a remake. I even got a new ECU! YAY
:uzi::cheer2:

 

[nevada]

I call bullshit. Link or it didn't happen. :moon:

as you wish

Bike won't start after using NOS fuel additive : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

i thought he was joking when he asked.
also, I was too lazy to find the link. haha.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

So... first off, do you plan on having over an inch of standing water in the vehicle? A key's length is over an inch, there should never be that much water in the vehicle. As I said before, if you're in THAT deep of water, electronics are going to be only half the problems your running into.

The space above the connector is possibly for other junction connectors related to higher trim models. You have an SR5 which would not have as many modules and needs as say a Limited with RAS. Once again I will point out that the harness runs along the floor and can be a conduit for fluid as it is in ALL modern vehicles; of which can short out any number of modules if it gets into the junction block and/or common power sources.

Also, why is only your driver's side floorpan so badly rusted, are you purposefully dumping salt on it or something? I've seen what road salt does to vehicles and you should be seeing the same damage spread across the passenger side as well with the tunnel being fairly okay as the drivetrain takes the abuse of that.

Finally I am glad everything worked out for you in the end. Next time I would recommend you disconnect the battery before doing ANY washing of the vehicle interior and then letting it dry out properly before reassembly. It doesn't matter if its a 4Runner with a "low connector," Mercedes-Benz S Class, or a Dodge Neon; you're forcing water where its not supposed in a modern computer controlled vehicle and you're upset it has issues. That's unrealistic thinking, modern vehicles come with modern problems, dielectric grease won't stand up much against a pressure washer by the way.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

Saw this as a headline to the link of this article and it instantly made me think of this thread.

:
Clearly capable of doing all the off-road things almost no one will actually do with it.

Drive Notes: 2014 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - Road & Track

 

[T4R2014]