plastidipWhere did you get the black wheel well/body covers?
Did you install them yourself?
plastidipWhere did you get the black wheel well/body covers?
Did you install them yourself?
Sorry, but that would be a big mistake, I would really reconsider that decision to sell...and I am not even a big fan of those cars.
Where did you get the black wheel well/body covers?
Did you install them yourself?
no offense to pro owners but aside from the wheels there is nothing on that truck that warrants anything more than an SR5. Pros suspension? I dont even know why anyone would want that with the plethora of aftermarket options. OP of the 2 vehicles you listed I would go TEP w/KDSS. I personally dont see KDSS as being worth the money either though.
Geez I gave a caveat to the post with NO OFFENSE.... I know comprehension is a lost art, but lets give it a shot..... I gave my opinion in response to the OPs question.... if you feel good with what you paid for fancy hard to clean wheels, billy 5100s, terra grapplers and a cool grill than good on you. I was speaking from a FUNCTIONAL standpoint not a "do I look good" one. If I was looking for a best built out of the box rig I would go TE.... but again this is my opinion posted on a public forum about 4runner enthusiasts.... :hello:i know it must be hard to imagine that people have different needs/desires than yourself, but -
some people don't want to bother with doing major modifications themselves. some people wouldn't be happy in a bone stock 4runner, but don't want to build gravedigger either. for these people (myself included), the TRDP is a happy medium between stock and a highly modified vehicle and comes with the peace of mind of a fully warrantied OEM vehicle.
May I ask why you think I should keep it?
I have driven a non KDSS 4R and it drove fine. However a small test drive doesn't come close to replicating the hundreds of variants we deal with while owning the car and I feel that owners that have the experience would be the best to suggest.
The reason I'm looking at the 4R is because im a genuine car guy. I've had everything from low 10 sec daily driven cars, drag racing to the mid 8s, to purpose built trail rigs, mostly Jeeps... Where I've done full axle swaps, lockers, long arm suspensions, etc. I love that the 4R is a body on frame with the offroad heritage, I want something that's very capable stock. Because although I don't plan on taking it offroad, one curse of being a car guy is that the bug can bite at anytime. That and i want a lot of functionality and I look at most CUVs like minivans. No thanks.
My main reason for the trdpro is its ready to go with a daily driver friendly setup for miles and years to come. I like that it's different as I've modded all my cars to be different. If it came with KDSS that wouldn't be an issue. However the TEP has KDSS and I've heard so many great things about it that I don't want to overlook a great system for the benefit of some shocks and tires, which can be done myself. But then that's getting the bug - throwing some shocks and then wheels and tires... then a bumper, winch, so forth. I don't want to get down that path as I want to keep it 100% reliable and keep its driving dynamics. Many times have I gone down that path and even though the ride is acceptable, it's not as comfortable, quiet and convenient as it should be due to lifts, offroad tires, height, not going into parking garages, etc. and something will always be an issue.
This is a lot of rambling but I hope it gives an idea of why the 4R and why I'm between these two choices.
Geez I gave a caveat to the post with NO OFFENSE.... I know comprehension is a lost art, but lets give it a shot..... I gave my opinion in response to the OPs question.... if you feel good with what you paid for fancy hard to clean wheels, billy 5100s, terra grapplers and a cool grill than good on you. I was speaking from a FUNCTIONAL standpoint not a "do I look good" one. If I was looking for a best built out of the box rig I would go TE.... but again this is my opinion posted on a public forum about 4runner enthusiasts.... :hello:
its ok, there is going to be alot of butthurt from the pro crowd, same thing happened with all the guys that rushed out and bought the call of duty black ops jeep and thought they bought a built rig and all of the sudden felt they could kick down doors and zip tie hadji..... it happenssorry, guess i should have also included "no offense".
Thanks to everyone for their input!
I purchased a '15 TEP w/ KDSS yesterday and am loving it!
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I love my TEP and I've been wondering if I should have held out for the TRDP... although I do love KDSS and the smoother ride, would TRDP be stiffer? Guessing yes....
also kind of wishing I got the charcoal color but they didn't have the TEP in either Nautical blue or Charcoal... ah well I guess silver is fine! :blah:
This truck and color look awesome!