The answer is about 500 yards.
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jdtaylor42
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Wow that is the worst thing I have ever heard about happening! Just totally forgot?
Really glad to hear they gave you a total swap out though! I wouldn't want anything to do with an engine swap in a practically brand new vehicle
Really glad to hear they gave you a total swap out though! I wouldn't want anything to do with an engine swap in a practically brand new vehicle
kpinthebay
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I'm guilty. I didn't flip through the entire thread.
But kinda like Bigredtex, i hadn't yet made it through all 11 pages of the thread. I'm on the train, my stop is coming up, and wanted to put in a few words because i know someone who went through something similar.
But hey, good lookin out. Much aloha.
Kennyr44
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Everything I screwed up in 25 years was deducted from my pay, parts only, I ate the labor. A big one would be spread out over several pay checks. I would be ok with a new engine or even a long block I guess but not a short block. I screwed up a block once drilling out a freeze plug in a bran new car. I had to replace it, took about a day and a half of my time. Paid 1500, 250 a paycheck. I had a wheel fall off once and nobody hurt but 800 in repairs. The customer wanted me fired, he was told no and he can go elsewhere if that wasnt ok with him. One time a spark plug came loose and was towed back in. That guy was nice and after I talked to him he became a great customer that just asked for me always. Stuff happens and it sucks but life goes on and all that really matters is your family and their health.
I'm no lawyer, but I believe this varies state-by-state. In Alabama, you can make DV claims against 3rd parties, but not 1st.
If you get in an accident and it's somebody else's fault, you can get DV from them or their insurance company. If the accident if your fault, your insurer will not pay you DV.
No one's acting like it's a Bugatti. You are acting like you think you're Michelangelo, though.
Try harder. Your two cents, isn't.
4by4th
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Hard to believe I posted this 9 years ago:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?t=22397
Over 100,000 miles later, my 4Runner is still running strong. In my case the dealer's insurance took over defining the repair.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?t=22397
Over 100,000 miles later, my 4Runner is still running strong. In my case the dealer's insurance took over defining the repair.
nevada
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swapping engines is actually pretty easy. even more so with more modern stuff. everything takes a proprietary connector. you literally cant plug it in wrong. also, they have simplified the underhood wiring quite a bit. you have one main engine harness with a dozen or so sensors.
a garage monkey would be able to get that right.
a truck that was ran without oil, then subsequently locked up because of it, wouldn't have any other issues, OTHER than the engine.
people keep saying, "always have problems" or "what other problems".
assuming the replacement engine is in good shape, there wouldn't be ANY problems, at least not due to the "ran without oil" engine swap.
LandCruiser
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So does Toyota sell these plug and play crate motors?
Or are you going to have to source a salvage block and then buy all the moving parts, harnesses, from Toyota then cobble it all together?
nevada
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why are you intentionally being belligerent?
the harness stays with the truck, so no issue there.
I didn't say anything about a crate engine, but apparently they don't sell them. so id guess it would be a long block. again, any shop monkey could slap on the peripherals and you would be none the wiser. its not rocket science. if they are capable of SWAPPING the engine, they are capable of swapping over a few parts.
im not sure where you get the idea anything would be cobbled together. they are all manufactured pieces meant to WORK TOGETHER. quite the opposite of COBBLED.
philsey
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+1
This thread had a pleasant ending many posts ago [MENTION=92049]LandCruiser[/MENTION] . You are being obnoxious!
Yes, I am the 5G Mod-in-training.
Jetboy
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The problem is that they don't work together unless they're assembled properly. For example the intake manifolds and exhaust manifolds when bolted to aluminum heads can be prone to leaks. Having them assembled with all new parts torqued accurately in the proper pattern may go a long way toward reducing the probability of "cyl 4 lean" error code. I don't know specifically on this engine, but there are many instances where you have access to areas with the body removed as they are installed at the factory that you cannot easily torque bolts to spec. Exhaust is likely one of them. I very much doubt you have decent access to the flange on the downstream end of the header for example.
The likelihood of a tech at a dealership putting the right thread lock on the correct bolts and torquing them properly on every fastener in the engine bay necessary to dress and install the new engine is low. They are going to tighten the valve covers until it feels right. That's just how it goes.
Can it be done well? Sure. Is it ever? not very often.
After 8 weeks of trying Lexus could not properly install a dash and navigation system. I wouldn't let them anywhere near the engine bay of my car.
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Good lord you people are nuts. Gasoline engines have been around since, I don't know, 1903? In WW2 they used to rebuild motors on B-24's in muddy fields. Freaking Edd China, the Greasy Monkey, and two chicks on some car show on Velocity on Sun AM's swap engines all the time.
A guy in my city has a Towne Car with "XYZ Lincoln -Mercury sold me this lemon" and a lemon the size of a basketball, professionally painted on both sides. Seen it around town for years.
But not these, and not in these cars.
Very different situations.
My cousins and uncle drag race semipro - have a machine shop in the barn behind my uncle's house, and do engine swaps, etc. That is not near as much like what is happening here. They also advise not letting techs swap engines at the dealership in modern-assembly, highly computerized cars with highly specialized components assembled into tight spaces.
O'really? So only Japanese men working on an assembly line in Japan have the mad skillz to touch these engines?
Jetboy
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The machining equipment available at a factory is nothing like what Jed's backyard machine shop uses. The results reflect that. Give the shop a multi billion dollar facility and they'll probably turn out similar quality. Have them machine cylinders with a glorified drill press.... not so much. It's not the workers as much as the facilities and systems in place to ensure precision. Same reason a body shop can't match factory paint quality and durability. You can't use the same products because once the plastic goes on, you can't bake to the same temperatures. It's not the body shop's fault, just the nature of doing the same job with a tiny fraction of the resources.
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