Theft Deterrents

[Intruder]

So the original post was asking about preventing theft of external accessories like light bars (very popular theft item around here) yet the thread went to glass breakage sensors and guns. :noidea:

I think for light bars you need to throw a couple tack welds on or use some of those locking bolts to keep them safer. I doubt most thieves would go to the trouble of removing bumpers, winches, sliders, or roof racks unless they had a lot of time to work in a secluded area. Someone who really wants all those things would probably just steal the entire vehicle instead. If you have a rear bumper with a tire carrier I'd also suggest using a locking lug nut as we've had Jeeps get their spares stolen around here too.

 

[barryhiram]

I use Trunk Monkey!

No trunk and can't afford a real monkey, this guy sits in my backseat.

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Trunk no, but cargo cover yes............


Kinda trunk like. My monkey works for :banana::banana:..................:drum:

Sorry, couldn't resist :biggrin2:

 

[Mikey01]

IANYL

It depends on your State:

For example, Texas:

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.


Florida:
The 2014 Florida Statute- Title XLVI-CHAPTER 776 -JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE


That being said, I would think long and hard before skinning that smoke wagon.

George Zimmerman, was also justified to use force. Look how that turned out for him. Not looking to argue but is your car worth a life to you, and a long court battle.

Trunk no, but cargo cover yes............

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Kinda trunk like. My monkey works for :banana::banana:..................:drum:



Sorry, couldn't resist :biggrin2:

That's a good option, another is to tint your windows, if people don't know you have something to take they will not bother. Out of site out of mind.

 

[3wbdriver]

My comment about the .45 was really meant to be facetious folks. Hence the hiding behind the couch smiley...... No need to get into a justified this or that discussion on how to prevent parts theft. I mean, REALLY?

If a thief wants it bad enough he will figure out how to get it. Deterrence is just that. You need to make it too much trouble or too time consuming to steal. About 30 years ago my moron little brother ran his car out of gas in a state park and had to leave it overnight. When they returned the next day it had been stripped of all 4 tires, a large box of cassette tapes, and when they couldn't figure out how to remove it, they vandalized the stereo and surrounding dash with a hammer and chisel. Sometimes your stuff is just going to get stolen.

Unless of course they start legalizing shooting criminals for just being criminals. It would also relieve some of the pressure on our prison system. :naughty:

 

[barryhiram]

That's a good option, another is to tint your windows, if people don't know you have something to take they will not bother. Out of site out of mind.

Absolutely agree!!!!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Exactly, just cause somethings legal doesn't make it ethical or smart...

I have a very simple premise. If you value your well being, don't **** with my shit. I don't **** with another mans shit and expect the same in return.

If you do **** with my shit and I catch you, something bad is going to happen. To you, not me.

The liberal "oh, it's not worth hurting somebody over" crap doesn't fly with me. There is way too much of that nonsense in this country today and just look at places like Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, D.C. to see the result.

 

[Mikey01]

My comment about the .45 was really meant to be facetious folks. Hence the hiding behind the couch smiley...... No need to get into a justified this or that discussion on how to prevent parts theft. I mean, REALLY?

If a thief wants it bad enough he will figure out how to get it. Deterrence is just that. You need to make it too much trouble or too time consuming to steal. About 30 years ago my moron little brother ran his car out of gas in a state park and had to leave it overnight. When they returned the next day it had been stripped of all 4 tires, a large box of cassette tapes, and when they couldn't figure out how to remove it, they vandalized the stereo and surrounding dash with a hammer and chisel. Sometimes your stuff is just going to get stolen.

Unless of course they start legalizing shooting criminals for just being criminals. It would also relieve some of the pressure on our prison system. :naughty:

For some reason The gif emoji don't work with my app.

I agree with you about the whole legalizing harsh consequences for criminals how ever it in not politically correct.

 

[3wbdriver]

For some reason The gif emoji don't work with my app.

I agree with you about the whole legalizing harsh consequences for criminals how ever it in not politically correct.

Where are you in Utah. I'm just across the border in Idaho and planning to tour a few of the parks in Utah over the next few days. PM me if you're interested in meeting. Check the link below.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/193390-last-hurrah.html

 

[Swarty]

pro gun but...

I have a very simple premise. If you value your well being, don't **** with my shit. I don't **** with another mans shit and expect the same in return.

If you do **** with my shit and I catch you, something bad is going to happen. To you, not me.

The liberal "oh, it's not worth hurting somebody over" crap doesn't fly with me. There is way too much of that nonsense in this country today and just look at places like Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, D.C. to see the result.

Not talking about liberal crap, I'm firmly pro 2nd amendment and glad Oregon has some of the easiest CC laws, almost my whole family carries. Just think some sense has to come into it when you are talking about fire arms.

 

[Randyman...]

So the original post was asking about preventing theft of external accessories like light bars (very popular theft item around here) yet the thread went to glass breakage sensors and guns. :noidea:

I also mentioned using non-standard security screws or other uncommon attachment methods which could also be applied to external accessories, too. Adding shock-sensing to the alarm is likely to trigger the alarm when brute force is needed to remove such attachment methods - be it inside the truck or outside the the truck :yo:

I'd be willing to bet breaking lug-nuts loose (to steal Wheels & Tires) would trigger the shock sensor, too. The base alarm would be utterly useless there...

Keeping a fairly stock looking ride and purposefully restricting where/when you park is likely the best prevention, though...

 

[Intruder]

I'd be willing to bet breaking lug-nuts loose (to steal Wheels & Tires) would trigger the shock sensor, too. The base alarm would be utterly useless there...

Hmm, I'm not sure if breaking the lug nut would do that (unless it was way over-torqued). I think jacking it up to remove the wheels might be more likely to though.

And of course, if you have remote keyless entry then nothing inside your vehicle is safe. Thieves using a $17 device to break into cars with keyless systems

 

[Randyman...]

Hmm, I'm not sure if breaking the lug nut would do that (unless it was way over-torqued). I think jacking it up to remove the wheels might be more likely to though.

OK - So either way the alarm is likely to get triggered, correct? Same for trying to forcibly rip-off a light bar attached with "Security Allen Screws" or other types of attachment methods a thief is not likely to have tools for in his go-to bag.

And of course, if you have remote keyless entry then nothing inside your vehicle is safe. Thieves using a $17 device to break into cars with keyless systems

That story is largely click-bait hysteria IMNSHO (like most things in the mainstream media these days!). If breaking into any vehicle (some are more likely than others) was that easy - then how many people on this thread know of ANYONE that had their vehicle burglarized in such a way?

I know of zero.

I will not be without shock and glass break detection - period. I simply got mine in the form of the "Premium" Toyota alarm (was good to go as I drove off the lot) instead of screwing with installing an aftermarket alarm myself (as I have with my past 3 rides). I'll gladly rip out the interior to do my DIY Audio Stuff, but for some reason I'm not a fan of DIY Alarm Installation, but have suffered through it in the past (and worked at a car audio shop in the 90's doing lots of alarm installs - ugh!!! Never again!!!).

Back to work

 

[WODWorldWide]

I use these McMaster-Carr and these for my lights McMaster-Carr. Now don't come find me and steel my shit.

 

[ic0517]

Guy at work says a manual transmission is good theft deterrent. Wife deterrent too.

 

[LandCruiser]

I find .45ACP works rather well within about 25 yards. :hiding:

300 black subsonic suppressed SBR works equally well.

 

[Mikey01]

300 black subsonic suppressed SBR works equally well.

Watch out with all the 556 off shoots, a lot of guys are getting them to run in their 556 uppers, changing the guns sound to boom instead of its normal bang.

 

[RainCityShecks]

It sucks getting your stuff stolen, but, really who gives a mother @#@#$ it's just stuff. As long as you and yours is safe it doesn't really matter.

 

[HerT4R]

bringing this back...

but has anyone heard of skids or sliders getting stolen?

they are fairly expensive but also large and unwieldy... has anyone had theirs stolen? or should i even think twice about just mounting em (skids/sliders) up and being done with em?

was looking at these: security fasteners but it might be overkill... just wondering if anybody has heard of or had their large, heavy, metal bits stolen. because with money tight i would like to make every effort to keep hold of my large purchases.

personally, i feel like they aren't worth stealing because they are rather large, rather heavy, and would only fit a specific vehicle and a small part of that vehicles base... but i don't tend to steal things, and don't tend to understand criminals real well... :crazy:

what do you guys think?

 

[firepilot]

We have some police K-9 training in town right now. At the coffee shop in the am there have been 5-6 cruisers with animals in the back sitting there idling. Officers are inside drinking coffee.

Looks like a pretty good theft deterrent system to me.

Phil

 

[Engineer]

bringing this back...

but has anyone heard of skids or sliders getting stolen?

they are fairly expensive but also large and unwieldy... has anyone had theirs stolen? or should i even think twice about just mounting em (skids/sliders) up and being done with em?

was looking at these: security fasteners but it might be overkill... just wondering if anybody has heard of or had their large, heavy, metal bits stolen. because with money tight i would like to make every effort to keep hold of my large purchases.

personally, i feel like they aren't worth stealing because they are rather large, rather heavy, and would only fit a specific vehicle and a small part of that vehicles base... but i don't tend to steal things, and don't tend to understand criminals real well... :crazy:

what do you guys think?

Never heard of anyone getting Skids or Sliders stolen, but if you are really worried find a friend with a welder!