Time to Repaint. Clear Coat Questions.

3rzrunner

3rzrunner

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Hey there, just wanted to see if anyone has and information or experience with high end clear coats.

So basically my 4runners clear coat is peeling on the hood and roof and I am going to get the whole truck repainted.

I am going to do all the prep work: masking, part removal, basic sanding, etc..
and then I am going to buy the exact same color (evergreen pearl) in DuPont or something, (would like some brand recommendations!) and hand it over to the shop.

Then for the clear coat I do not want to put the stock or body shop quality stuff on. I want something really high end. I need recommendations!!

I have been researching 'coats and have come up with some stuff that is harder than normal clear coats, meant for Bentleys and Range Rovers.
For example Nanovere Technologies, LLC. AUTO etc

but would like some information or tips from any one that has used a expensive clear coat before. what brand did you use? Do you like the outcome?

Harder clear coat resists scratches from brush much better than stock stuff, so that would also be a great benefit!

Thanks Guys!

just as a side note I also have a '97 range rover and a '09 Honda civic and they were both freshly waxed and the range rovers clear coat beads water much better and feels so much smoother to the touch. so basically I am looking for something in the range rover quality.
 
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Chromabase is what you're talking about Dupont wise yes? If so it's not bad.


They had a lower line called Nason that wasn't bad either.

PPG makes great paint as well.

Whichever brand you decide be sure to use the same brand clear as well.


I use to spray both in the early 00's. Very good paint
 
Justin727 said:
Chromabase is what you're talking about Dupont wise yes? If so it's not bad.


They had a lower line called Nason that wasn't bad either.

PPG makes great paint as well.

Whichever brand you decide be sure to use the same brand clear as well.


I use to spray both in the early 00's. Very good paint
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For the Actual base coat the Dupont paint is fine. I really don't care that much for the base coat as long as its a nice deep color and lasts. Something a little better than stock would be fine.

But for the clear coat I want something custom. (high end, expensive)

and may I ask why I should use the same brand clear coat as the paint I choose?
 
Justin727 said:
Whichever brand you decide be sure to use the same brand clear as well.
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Modern auto paints are formulated as a 'system' and if you mix the wrong paint/clear (in some cases even primers and sealers) it may not work well (as in, peel off in a few months). Stay with the paint manufacturer's clear and it should be good.
 
3rzrunner said:
just as a side note I also have a '97 range rover and a '09 Honda civic and they were both freshly waxed and the range rovers clear coat beads water much better and feels so much smoother to the touch. so basically I am looking for something in the range rover quality.
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That could just be because the color sanding/buffing was done to a much higher quality on the Range Rover than the Civic. I'm guessing the factory finish guys (or the dealer) spend a little more time on a (now) $70,000 vehicle than a $20,000 vehicle.
 
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3rzrunner said:
just as a side note I also have a '97 range rover and a '09 Honda civic and they were both freshly waxed and the range rovers clear coat beads water much better and feels so much smoother to the touch. so basically I am looking for something in the range rover quality.
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More at play here than just the quality of the clear coat. Are both vehicles subjected to the same environment? One garaged and the other not?
Also, if you didn't clay the Honda before waxing it this time, try it next time.
 
MONTYMTB said:
More at play here than just the quality of the clear coat. Are both vehicles subjected to the same environment? One garaged and the other not?
Also, if you didn't clay the Honda before waxing it this time, try it next time.
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both are 1 owner (me) and have been both garaged their entire life. the rover probably has been subject to much worse, it has been driven on the hiway in the winter behind trucks that spray snow/sand/salt mix onto the truck. while the Honda is a city queen.

both are fully clay barred and 3 stage mothers waxed. right after the wax they are both the same, but the rover keeps its smoothness/slickness MUCH longer and the water beads up on it a lot better. when you run your nail on the clear coat, (eg in a door jamb) your nail slides really easily on the rover but on the Honda it feels like its 'digging in' and there is a lot of friction. I think this has to do with the 'hardness' of the clear coat, but im no expert.
 
ok so I've learned I need the same brand stuff.

does anyone with a custom paint job have any recommendations?

stuff that is better than the stock stuff?


would I need to use the same brand primer or does the primer not matter?
 
you stated a shop will be doing the work. Do you care about a warranty at all?

what did the shop say?

their opinion will matter A LOT since they are taking your money and (hopefully) warranting the work.

Generally speaking you do not want to mix paint brands. The shop will not want to do this either. You will likely not succeed at forcing them.
 
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I'm not sure but doesn't most of Canada have strict environmental laws similar to ONLY CALIFORNIA in the U.S? If so I think the product names will be different. For instance our Rustoleum is called Tremclad there and formulated differently. Maybe someone in Canada can name some paints.

I haven't used auto paint but I've ordered other body supplies from TCP Global - Quality & Service Since 1974 They've been good shippers have good prices. They have several paint systems. See if they'll ship to you. You might have to find a local body shop supplier and pick their brains.
 
You won't end up with a quality product by mixing different brands. Stick with the same brand. Rather than supplying the paint use what the shop offers and make sure you get a warranty. We offer a lifetime warranty on our paint
 
BrianSD_42 said:
you stated a shop will be doing the work. Do you care about a warranty at all?

what did the shop say?

their opinion will matter A LOT since they are taking your money and (hopefully) warranting the work.

Generally speaking you do not want to mix paint brands. The shop will not want to do this either. You will likely not succeed at forcing them.
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ok, just putting this information out there for everyone,

I am going to be doing all of the prep work, the only thing the shop is going to do is apply the paint.

The shop that is going to be applying the paint is a good buddy of mine.( he painted my 85 cruiser.) so I don't really care about a warranty since I am going to be buying top-of-the-line stuff

I have a 85' landcruiser diesel that I did the exact same thing I am going to do to my 4runner, I stripped it down, sanded, masked and bought the paint (ppg) and gave it to my buddy at the shop and he applied the paint.
 
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