Tires for California drivin

Hippestguyever

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Hey everyone! I know there's numerous tire posts but it seems everyone's situation is a bit different. So forgive me for starting this thread but I definitely need some feedback before I make a mistake or make a good choice. I have a 17' TRD Off Road Prem. (see build link in signature) and I'm getting a 2.5/1.5 inch lift soon. I'm pretty sure the 265s are going to look a bit small for the car so I was debating between the 285s and 275s. With my 4runner, I'll be doing mostly 90% daily california highway driving with 10% out on the trails. The other big factor is quietness and MPG. I know everyone wants to save on MPG but i had to throw it out there. As I'll be doing the lift this upcoming week, time is of the essence..
Factors
- Quietness
- MPG
- Comfort
- Longetivity

Below are the few I'm debating between..

285 Nitto Terra Grapplers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PY4NLBC/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

275 BFG Ko2s - Seem to be the popular choice
285 BFG Ko2s - https://www.amazon.com/BFGoodrich-A...e=UTF8&qid=1504976221&sr=1-1&keywords=285+bfg

Any feedback or help will be much appreciated

Thanks in advance
 
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the KO2's you linked to are for 16" rims

also consider 255/80 tires

also if you have discount tires in your area i would do that instead of amazon so you get free balancing, from my quick search it doesn't look like you would save money on amazon vs discount tire
 
I'm a BFG KO/KO2 fan. The BFG's are pretty quiet, have good longevity, and ride comfort isn't too bad for E rated tires.

The biggest cons are that you will feel a hit on MPG, and acceleration will suffer slightly the bigger you go.
 
Nobody ever seems to suggest this:

1. Don't lift it.
2. Stick with stock sized tires (265/70/17)
3. Change to Toyo Open Country LT-265/65/17 (E) M/Ts.

You will be able to handle 99% of all the off-road situations the world will throw at you.

Your gas mileage will not suffer at all.

You will experience some increase in noise - so what.

The ones on my truck are about half worn after 48,000 miles (about 30% off-road/70% pavement)

Have run 3 sets of these now - 2 sets on a 2004 Land Rover discovery and the present set on my 2013 totally stock SR5.
 

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Any bigger, heavier or aggressive tread tires negates efficiency. Period. Also every AT or aggressive tread tire is not going to be as quiet or handle as well on the road.

Go with a Michelin AT if you want any hope of meeting your stated targets. You really go off road 1500 miles a year? That s 10% if you do 15k/yr. Or did you mean 1%.
 
Nobody ever seems to suggest this:

1. Don't lift it.
2. Stick with stock sized tires (265/70/17)
3. Change to Toyo Open Country LT-265/65/17 (E) M/Ts.

You will be able to handle 99% of all the off-road situations the world will throw at you.

Your gas mileage will not suffer at all.

You will experience some increase in noise - so what.

The ones on my truck are about half worn after 48,000 miles (about 30% off-road/70% pavement)

Have run 3 sets of these now - 2 sets on a 2004 Land Rover discovery and the present set on my 2013 totally stock SR5.

I do. It all about the looks Ron. All about cool factor.
 
might want to look at the falkens. just picked mine up yesterday. seem to be almost as quiet as stock tires and they are much cheaper than ko2. Only had a day with them so early to tell but seem good so far.
 
BFG KO2 in stock size. Better looking than stock tires... or most tires for that matter, very quiet for an AT, and no penalty to gas mileage (at least in my case) consistently averaging between 19.5 and 20.0. This is my second set of KO2s and and probably my 10th set of KOs on various vehicles. My 4R isn't lifted and they fill out the wheel wells nicely. I just completed a 7000 mile road trip to WA, WY, ID, MT, etc. and back. Smooth at speeds above 90mph, quiet, and great in the sand, gravel, etc.
 

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This is 2" front and 1.25" rear on 265's. I'm on my second set of General Grabber AT2's. About the same tread pattern as the KO2 for ~60% the price, 60,000 mile tread life. Quiet except on concrete surfaces (everything is louder on concrete). But primarily I'm posting just to show you 265's do NOT look odd on a 2" or so lift. The fenders aren't really that large to begin with. And if MPG and mostly highway driving are a priority the 265 will keep you in the better mpg range. And for comfort you want to avoid load range E. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Be honest with yourself about what you want. If you're that concerned about tires looking small get the 33's or you'll never be happy, just don't expect to get the same kind of mileage. I agree that 10% off road is a fair amount, but it also depends on what kind of off road you're talking about traveling. As stated a stock 4Runner with good tires is damn capable, but if you want to go bigger/increase capability you'll have to accept what it entails. Regardless, rolling resistance and changes in tire/gear ratios are going to impact your fuel economy.
 
I am in the exact same boat as you. Based on everything i have read, the 285s are going to mess up Mpgs big time. The best combo for DD/Offroad would be ko2's in 265 C range or an AT 275 in P range.

285s will look the best of course but you will pay.
 
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I vaguely remember mpgs. As far as road noise goes; it is good for drowning out the extra suspension noises from a lift. I only think practically. If you stay at 20 mpg on hwy, you won't get to test as many pumps to make sure they are calibrated well. I think of it as doing my part for the greater good. I made a vow never to be able to reach 300 miles on a tank of gas. I've been very careful to keep that vow.

Lifting and bigger tires will not be complimentary to quietness, mpg, comfort or longevity. It will increase the fun and satisfaction. You get to choose!
 
I'm pretty sure the 265s are going to look a bit small for the car so I was debating between the 285s and 275s. With my 4runner, I'll be doing mostly 90% daily california highway driving with 10% out on the trails. The other big factor is quietness and MPG. I know everyone wants to save on MPG but i had to throw it out there. As I'll be doing the lift this upcoming week, time is of the essence..

Stock size won't look small with that lift. I ran it for a while but with a 2.5 up front and 2" lift in the rear.
Here's a .gif between stock and 2.5/2" lift

If you're still wanting bigger tires, I recommend 255/80. Took about a 2mpg loss with them, not including the armor. Not sure how much it would be with a 285. They're about the same height as a 285 I think. Not as fat though. Rides good with a very low hum.
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Installed P 285/70R17 Falken Wildpeaks on FX FN Pros this morning on stock suspension. Did the fender liner mod and shaved off the lower bumper to avoid full lock grinding. They sound stock driving on street and freeways(60,605,210). :bounce:
 
Nobody ever seems to suggest this:

1. Don't lift it.
2. Stick with stock sized tires (265/70/17)
3. Change to Toyo Open Country LT-265/65/17 (E) M/Ts.

You will be able to handle 99% of all the off-road situations the world will throw at you.

Your gas mileage will not suffer at all.

You will experience some increase in noise - so what.

The ones on my truck are about half worn after 48,000 miles (about 30% off-road/70% pavement)

Have run 3 sets of these now - 2 sets on a 2004 Land Rover discovery and the present set on my 2013 totally stock SR5.

Wish I had heeded this a long time ago! Agreed 100%.
 
Is California still part of the continental 48? I thought for sure those liberal socialists would have seceded by now. :flame: My recommendation would be to go with the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s. They're a decent ride on the pavement and pretty versatile for almost anything else.
 
the KO2's you linked to are for 16" rims

also consider 255/80 tires

also if you have discount tires in your area i would do that instead of amazon so you get free balancing, from my quick search it doesn't look like you would save money on amazon vs discount tire

Yeah my fault, I had a few tabs open but i meant the 17' k02s. I will definitely check out the 255/80 tires (Thanks for the tip)

We do have a discount tire, I might stop by it and see if i can haggle haha.
 
I'm a BFG KO/KO2 fan. The BFG's are pretty quiet, have good longevity, and ride comfort isn't too bad for E rated tires.

The biggest cons are that you will feel a hit on MPG, and acceleration will suffer slightly the bigger you go.

Forgive me for sounding stupid but are all BFG K02s E rated? or do they make a standard load for it?
 

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