Took an X5 4.4 without trying

rkdiddy said:
I believe one of the big differences between the '03 and '04 besides the hike in HP is "I believe" the '03 is a 4-speed and I know the '04 is a 5-speed. If that is the case the gearing alone would make a big difference in how the x5 put the power to the ground.

The 2003 is a 5-Speed and the 2004 is a 6-Speed. I like the 5-Speed on the 2003 better. It is a lot smoother.
 
Off the line coming out of the toll booth pedal to the floor the 4Runner would take the X5, the newer 04 4.4 version don't know.

I have not had enough time behind the wheel of a 4.6 but they handle like they are on rails:D
 
Mark86 quote:
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Originally posted by rkdiddy
I believe one of the big differences between the '03 and '04 besides the hike in HP is "I believe" the '03 is a 4-speed and I know the '04 is a 5-speed. If that is the case the gearing alone would make a big difference in how the x5 put the power to the ground.
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The 2003 is a 5-Speed and the 2004 is a 6-Speed. I like the 5-Speed on the 2003 better. It is a lot smoother.


There you go. I knew it was something like that. That is surprising the 5-speed is smoother. From my understanding the 6-speed is borrowed from the new 5-series. Man I want a BMW!
 
The new 4.8 x5

i just saw a ad for the new 4.8 x5, now i know for a fact the runner wouldn't even be able to touch that...
 
rkdiddy said:
Mark86 quote:

There you go. I knew it was something like that. That is surprising the 5-speed is smoother. From my understanding the 6-speed is borrowed from the new 5-series. Man I want a BMW!

There is a problem that BMW seems to know about with the 04 X5 tranmission. When it shifts from 1 to 2, it sometimes gives you a huge jerk where your head goes back. Also, if you push the accelerator down and, let up, and then hit it lightly again, it also is very rough. This does not happen all of the time. It is very intermitent. The BMW dealer said that my mom's X5 is not the only one with that complaint.
 
Thai said:
Are you guys sure?? Those X5 4.4 and 4.6 are pretty fast. I know that the X5 4.6 goes to 60 mph in less than 6.5 seconds...X5 4.4 can't be that far behind. About the only SUVs that can beat the X5 4.4/4.6 consistently are Infiniti FX45 and Porsche Cayenne...and maybe the Caddy.

yeah, I tend to agree... this is one of those things i wanna see in order to believe.

oh, and thai, isnt it time to move this over to the comparisons board? :D
 
I have no respect for the BMW. It is basically a tall, poor handling 5-series wagon; except the wagon actually has more interior space.

I really don't care how fast the X5 is because it is a complete poser suv. It has no room, it can't go off-road and it gets bad gas mileage. All the drawbacks of owning an suv but none of the benefits.
 
FirstToyz said:
I have no respect for the BMW. It is basically a tall, poor handling 5-series wagon; except the wagon actually has more interior space.

I really don't care how fast the X5 is because it is a complete poser suv. It has no room, it can't go off-road and it gets bad gas mileage. All the drawbacks of owning an suv but none of the benefits.

Ditto.
 
pokerface said:
oh, and thai, isnt it time to move this over to the comparisons board? :D

Yeah, good point. Well, it's such a good discussion...i will move it in the near future.
 
I would love the BMW X5 Le Mans. I saw Hans Stuck driving it around Le Mans, talk about amazing video of an SUV flying! IT was some tuners truck and it was truly a sweet ride!

My buddies Porsche SUV (V8, not the turbo) is not that fast from the inside. I would love to see its 0-60 times. I took my mom's V8 VW Toureg the other day too.
 
When I took delivery of my M3 at the BMW perfromance delivery center, I was able to drive all the BMW'S at the track and wet skid pad. If a person were to drive an X5 4.4 or 4.6 the way it is designed to drive it would kill the 4runner. I know yall are talking about 0 to 60 but geez how much fun is that? I want a track to test and see how a vehicle performs.
 
I want a track to test and see how a vehicle performs.


Alright we'll set up a track like the ones' they have at the Land Rover dealers and see how the BMW does.

These are two different vehicles. There is actually a point to the 4Runner. I don't see the point in the X5. All the drawbacks of an suv without any real utility. If I wanted a sporty vehicle I would but and Audi Avant or a 3 series wagon.
 
BMW

Does not sell the X5 as a SUV. They call it an SAV, the 'a' being for activity. I'm not pro or con here; I personally chose the 4R over X5, mostly due to practicality, and I use my 4WD differently
[and more] than most people. X5 is much more active, than useful.

But you have to give them credit for attempting to more accurately categorize it.
 
Yes, The 4runner would do better off the pavement, but wernt we talking about performance on the pavement?
 
FOR ME, I think they are completely silly. It's a "can't car". All I can see when inside one is "can't".

Can't go off road
Can't expedition
Can't carry my stuff
Can't tow much
Can't get any better mpg's
Can't get good passenger space
Can't do anything my girlfriend's Accord can do
Can't match Toyota quality
Can't match Toyota reliability

All the while costing more in price and insurance while giving very little in on-road advantage. Real-world advantage? Nothing.

It is a poser SUV. That's ok, I think the X5 looks sharp and I would never tell someone how to spend their money. It's a free country. For me, no way.
 
ok you were obviously trying... and he was not.

my best friend has a 3.0 x5. we raced 3 times to 70. we switched cars and raced again. every single time, my 4runner edged him. slightly. i mean, maybe 1.5 car lengths at 70. i expected to beat the x5 badly (based on what i read in this post), but i was very surprised.

then i pull in behind my 4runner and he was full throttle off the line. he pulled away in my 4runner, but barely.

now i love my 4runner and i am no fan of the x5, but there is no way that a 4runner can hang with a v8 x5.

on another note... my best friend also has a tundra 2 wheel drive and i beat him by the exact same margin.

hawk
 
The Truth About 4R vs X5

my best friend has a 3.0 x5. we raced 3 times to 70. we switched cars and raced again. every single time, my 4runner edged him. slightly. i mean, maybe 1.5 car lengths at 70. i expected to beat the x5 badly (based on what i read in this post), but i was very surprised.

then i pull in behind my 4runner and he was full throttle off the line. he pulled away in my 4runner, but barely.

now i love my 4runner and i am no fan of the x5, but there is no way that a 4runner can hang with a v8 x5.

on another note... my best friend also has a tundra 2 wheel drive and i beat him by the exact same margin.

hawk
 

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