Top engine clean maintenance
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CT_NGO
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Which vacuum hose did you used for the top engine cleaner? Watching the Youtube video, he stated to used the port closet to the throttle plate. Can you snap a picture of which hose you used to do this process?
LandCruiser
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I’m sure the dealer who charges 300 dollars for putting nitrogen in your tires and does unnecessary maintenance knows best.
delloro
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There are 2, and I alternate between them. One is on top, the other behind the TP. Will post pics later.
FYI the cleaner I got had a little sludge in the bottom which would plug it up. I cut the pickup tube a little bit and added a fuel filter. Works great.
Be advised you will run rough and throw codes, longer than I expected, but it does resolve itself. I am a fan so far.
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delloro
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I think it invites more problems than it fixes, though I have wondered about it.
Whippersnapper02
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Apparently they don't know how to remove the oil housing drain tool which resulted in chocolate rain for me.
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ElectroBoy
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“Some stay dry and others feel the pain”
97BlackAckCL
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Get a $3 bottle of gum out and send me the other $217
As a former master tech at a Toyota dealer, and various independent shops, I have to say that these "top end cleaners" are mostly just a wallet flush on modern fuel injected vehicles. Particularly on port injected engines like the 4Runner still has.
There ARE some DI engines that get buildup on the valves that could eventually need cleaning. But again, the 4Runner does not have a DI engine.
Just run quality gas, and your 4Runner will run fine with no need for a "top end cleaner".
There ARE some DI engines that get buildup on the valves that could eventually need cleaning. But again, the 4Runner does not have a DI engine.
Just run quality gas, and your 4Runner will run fine with no need for a "top end cleaner".
I used to add it to the fuel in my old Cummins powered Dodge and saw some benefits and no negative impacts. The thought behind doing so was to add some lubrication to the fuel that was taken out when ultra-low sulfur diesel was introduced. Modern diesel engines are designed for this fuel and don’t need it.
I wouldn’t put it in my 4Runner.
DougR
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Sea Foam was developed for use on outboard 2 stoke boat engines. When the company developed a reputation in that market, they decided to expand into the 4 stroke engine market and attempt to compete against better products. If you really have carbon buildup, then I suggest trying a product that has PEA in it, What's The Best Fuel Injector Cleaner of 2020? Here's the Top 7!
In the 80's, I used to own a vehicle that built up carbon on the pistons and pinged. I would add a decarburizing fuel treatment to a tank of fuel and verify that carbon was removed by pulling a spark plug. I forget what the product was, but it often worked with just one treatment. In those days, spark plugs on a 4 cylinder engine were not embedded so deeply into the engine. I could easily see most of piston by shining a flashlight into the cylinder. Since then, I have never used a fuel treatment on any vehicle.
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wsgoat
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The last time any of my Toyota's were at the dealership is when I drove them off the showroom floor. The "free" oil changes and maintenance they offer, during warranty, is just a scam to get buyers hooked on their overpriced, sub-par services. Toyota make a great vehicle, but their dealer network sucks donkey dick. As member "Electroboy" recently said: "Nobody gives a shit about your stuff like you do" Amen brother!
a47chuck
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I fell for that way back in the day on an '83 Cressida. Is your truck acting badly ... missing, surging or anything abnormal?
I've used Techron, but not for years. Never needed anything on any of my 'Runners since '98. Know nothing of Seafoam, so I won't comment. That said, save your money and just put something in the tank ... if you really feel you need it.
a47chuck
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I hear ya on the "Nobody gives a shit". Unfortunately I'm too old and too fat to do my own maintenance. Especially with that archaic, diabolical canister oil filter. This dealer, for the last seventeen years and five 'Runners and one Tundra, has not tried to sell me any "snake oil". I must be one lucky somenabich. HAH!
On another note, when my aunt was looking for a car, I said "Get a Toyota, they're bullet proof". 'Nuff said!
They wouldn't let me put the "t" in *****. LOL!
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Nobody Special
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My 02 4R went for warranty paint work on the hood.
It came back with a cigarette burn in the front bumper...
Missing power antenna assembly...
And the steering rack was so FUBAR'd, you could turn the wheel from 12 to either 3 or 9 and basically still go straight.
They told me nothing was wrong.
I got the the tech to get in, said we will go for a quick ride.
I asked him if he had children.
I turned the wheel and showed him what it was doing.
I then turned to him and asked... "Would you let me pick your children up in this vehicle after what I just showed you?"
He said I was right and they replaced it all.
So yes, they don't give a flying F about your vehicle.
Nobody Special
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EddieV4runnin
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They would never charge me $300 dollars for nitrogen I know they’re good people.
Nobody Special
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I love this Nitrogen in tires thing.
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