Toyota may bring back small FJ Cruiser to Challenge Wrangler
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Thai
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Didn’t CAFE requirements get more lenient after Trump came to office?
Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...17/3/15/14828070/trump-fuel-economy-standards
So, not finalized but CAFE requirements may lessen in future.
Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...17/3/15/14828070/trump-fuel-economy-standards
So, not finalized but CAFE requirements may lessen in future.
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This makes me excited:
Will there ever be a diesel engine option for Tundra?
There is definitely consideration. We're considering it for more than just Tundra and Tacoma. At this point, there has not been a finalized plan to go forward, but diesel is definitely an option that we are considering for implementation on multiple products.
Source:https://www.trucks.com/2018/01/19/toyota-sales-chief-talks-tacoma-tundra/
Will there ever be a diesel engine option for Tundra?
There is definitely consideration. We're considering it for more than just Tundra and Tacoma. At this point, there has not been a finalized plan to go forward, but diesel is definitely an option that we are considering for implementation on multiple products.
Source:https://www.trucks.com/2018/01/19/toyota-sales-chief-talks-tacoma-tundra/
TacoRunn0517
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Was watching TundraDude34 last night and he said he had a reliable source saying that a Tundra Diesel isn't in the works...yet. It would be nice to have that as an option for Toyota trucks.
Toyota's hands are all about tied on the diesel situation. Every single half ton will have a diesel option by the end of this year except for Toyota. So they will either have to come out with one or go with some sort of hybrid to equal the efficiency the competition will have with their diesels.
Speeder757
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Per another Toyota interview. Something Truck/SUV will either be shown or announced in a few weeks at the Chicago Auto Show.
TacoRunn0517
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The electric motor should help with that. Whether it is a good idea or not is a whole 'nother story...
HA! Apple Carplay??? :couch2:
TacoRunn0517
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That should help boost MPG and power haha...
Thai
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Wrangler JL is damn impressive off-road:
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Whatever Toyota brings out to challenge it better be ready...hopefully not some sissified re-branding of current platform.
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Whatever Toyota brings out to challenge it better be ready...hopefully not some sissified re-branding of current platform.
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Thai
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Has it been reliable for her?
Pretty much
The sport went 100k and traded it in for the rubicon. We had both for a long time. She eventually wanted more of a luxury suv and got an RR sport. The only problem is they crack a lot of windshields, I guess cause they are flat. At one point I had a Hummer H3 Alpha and she had the wrangler. Both trucks had a bunch of windshields replaced due to them being flat. We had no mechanical issues at all just windshields.
The sport went 100k and traded it in for the rubicon. We had both for a long time. She eventually wanted more of a luxury suv and got an RR sport. The only problem is they crack a lot of windshields, I guess cause they are flat. At one point I had a Hummer H3 Alpha and she had the wrangler. Both trucks had a bunch of windshields replaced due to them being flat. We had no mechanical issues at all just windshields.
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CO-Cygnus
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I'm up to 2 new windshields a year on my 4R, and I religiously have all my chips repaired. It's not just a RR issue.
hikenbike
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Thai
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Sure...in stock form?
LandCruiser
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Yep. Every 6-8 months for me.
LandCruiser
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My problem with Toyota is that they aren't competitive in engine and drivetrain options anymore, the 5th gen 4Runner had a cheap interior until they finally tweaked for the 5.5 gen refresh, and pricing is not in line for what you get--most of the "content" you get are appearance packages instead of focusing on improving the vehicle.
As for the "it's a basic 4x4" angle. It's not. They clearly market and price it with vehicles that have substantially better interiors, seating, drivetrains, and infotainment and if they want to go for the bare bones market, they need to sell a much cheaper version or just bring over the 70 series.
Jeep lets you build a bare bones wrangler or dress it up with shit you don't need. Toyota won't let you do that, and it's even a stretch to compare a SFA vehicle to IFS.
Toyota is marketing to too many segments with the 4Runner. I'm not really looking forward to the next generation or the FJ thing if the shit show that is the 3rd gen Taco is the best they can do.
Thai
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From factory, Rubicon has:
- 4:1 LO range (crawl ratio of 77:1 with automatic and 84:1 with manual)
- “Dana 44” axles that are much stronger and feature a different ring and pinion (210 mm/8.27 inches front and 220 mm/8.66 inches rear on Rubicon)...based on Dana’s new Advantek design
- Front and rear lockers
- Front axle disconnect that is improved upon
- Standard rock sliders
- 33-inch-tall LT285/70R17 BFGoodrich All-Terrain KO tires
- Ample clearances & angles (impressive 10.9-inch running ground clearance, an approach angle of 44 degrees, breakover angle of 27.8 degrees, and a departure angle of 37 degrees)
- 30 inches of water fording (with standard breather tubes on both axles)
- Available Diesel engine next year with 260 hp and 442 lb-ft of torque...add that to 4:1 LO range...yikes!
So, yeah, i doubt that any stock (or even most modified) Toyota vehicles can follow a Rubicon on the trail. You have to really trick out your 4runner with $$$ aftermarket parts to match what the Rubicon has off-road in terms of capability.
But, yeah, the argument against Jeep is reliability and on-road performance. But at least, Jeep claims that on-road performance is improving. So, will see.
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