Toytec Ultimate BOSS

[4boer2]

While I'm at it, let's talk about the rear bumpstop extensions. Who is running them? What are the pros and cons? I see the rear shocks say they are good for 1-3 inches of lift. So would the shocks bottom out before hitting the stock bumpstops? If that's how it works, why are the bumpstop extenders 2 inches instead of 1?

 

[TK-422]

Is this (the bolded part) true? If so, is anyone finding themselves needing to lube the lower mount due to squeaks or otherwise? It's my understanding that bushings are superior from a longevity standpoint, like the Bilsteins or even the boss rear shocks.

I think he meant they use Heim joints not uniball. both upper and lower joints on the 2.5 Boss are Heim joints.

I went with the 2.5 for the extra strength on this heavy pig. At the time I was going to order there were a bunch of others bending their shafts with the standard lifts with all brands so I wanted the extra piece of mind when off roading.

 

[ahbot]

I think he meant they use Heim joints not uniball. both upper and lower joints on the 2.5 Boss are Heim joints.

I went with the 2.5 for the extra strength on this heavy pig. At the time I was going to order there were a bunch of others bending their shafts with the standard lifts with all brands so I wanted the extra piece of mind when off roading.

I just picked up the same 2.5 fronts. What did you go with in the rears? Did you install them yet?

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[TK-422]

I just picked up the same 2.5 fronts. What did you go with in the rears? Did you install them yet?

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In the rear I went with Toytech 1-3" lift shocks and 2" Toytech superflex coils.

Yes I installed it a couple months ago.

 

[mace.]

I think he meant they use Heim joints not uniball. both upper and lower joints on the 2.5 Boss are Heim joints.



I went with the 2.5 for the extra strength on this heavy pig. At the time I was going to order there were a bunch of others bending their shafts with the standard lifts with all brands so I wanted the extra piece of mind when off roading.

Really??? I haven't seen any posts related to that so I was surprised to hear about all these bent shafts.

 

[ahbot]

In the rear I went with Toytech 1-3" lift shocks and 2" Toytech superflex coils.

Yes I installed it a couple months ago.

Nice. Looks great.

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[Saxainpdx]

I bought the BOSS 2.5 fronts, and the normal Toytec BOSS rear shocks with the 508600 coils. Had a shop install it, and remove XREAS, and love the way it drives. Very stiff, but have a few squeaks. Haven't had it off-highway yet to really test it, but hoping when I do, it will help settle everything.

This was an unusual kit. I ordered through Josh at RCI and the normal Toytec BOSS 2.0 kit was on back order so Josh asked if I wanted the 2.5 in the front with the 2.0 in the back since it was 200+ cheaper than the complete 2.5 kit.

Will give another report if I end up going to Brown's Camp this weekend.

 

[Watchdogg]

Really??? I haven't seen any posts related to that so I was surprised to hear about all these bent shafts.

Quite a few guys on Tacoma world bent the shafts on the bottom of the shocks.

 

[TK-422]

Really??? I haven't seen any posts related to that so I was surprised to hear about all these bent shafts.

What Watchdogg said but also here as well. They are scattered. I probably saw a few at the end of trail rides in the SoCal section. Not just bent struts but blowouts as well. I'm not saying it happens a lot but why not have the extra piece of mind.

I also have a Relentless Stingray winch bumper and winch sitting in my garage so it will help with the extra weight.

 

[green_manalishi]

What Watchdogg said but also here as well. They are scattered. I probably saw a few at the end of trail rides in the SoCal section. Not just bent struts but blowouts as well. I'm not saying it happens a lot but why not have the extra piece of mind.



I also have a Relentless Stingray winch bumper and winch sitting in my garage so it will help with the extra weight.

So, to confirm, it's only the 2" Boss coilovers which bend?


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[TK-422]

So, to confirm, it's only the 2" Boss coilovers which bend?


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No No No!

It was others such as Bilstiens and Icons. They only Toytech one I saw was broken and not warrantied due to it being completely rusted out.

 

[mace.]

No No No!



It was others such as Bilstiens and Icons. They only Toytech one I saw was broken and not warrantied due to it being completely rusted out.

I broke a coil on a toytec boss coilover. Only had surface rust on it. I guess what we have learned is that no brand is impervious from breakage.

 

[Alexadugs]

Trying to learn

Hey everyone.

Im about to purchase my 2017 TRD Off Road (AKA trail edition) in the next month and I'm looking into the Boss Suspension. I am new to off roading and want to ease into it seeing as its a brand new vehicle which will also be my Daily Driver.

My intention is to put 285/70/17 with this lift, but my question is what is the necessity for someone like me to replace the Upper Control Arms? Would I be able to still have a great ride quality and performance with the stock UCA?

I see a lot of back and forth in regards to rubbing and strange noises, so I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA.

Thanks in advance!

-Alexa

 

[Simpleman74]

Hey everyone.

Im about to purchase my 2017 TRD Off Road (AKA trail edition) in the next month and I'm looking into the Boss Suspension. I am new to off roading and want to ease into it seeing as its a brand new vehicle which will also be my Daily Driver.

My intention is to put 285/70/17 with this lift, but my question is what is the necessity for someone like me to replace the Upper Control Arms? Would I be able to still have a great ride quality and performance with the stock UCA?

I see a lot of back and forth in regards to rubbing and strange noises, so I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA.

Thanks in advance!

-Alexa

buys $40k truck.... buys pretty good lift..... bawks at $500 UCAs.....

do it right

 

[Alexadugs]

Makes first forum post...asking to learn more about a modification to ensure I make the best decision for said 40k vehicle

...receives unhelpful and sarcastic reply.

No "bawk"ing here, just trying to make an informed decision.

"I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA."

 

[Jhalko]

Makes first forum post...asking to learn more about a modification to ensure I make the best decision for said 40k vehicle

...receives unhelpful and sarcastic reply.

No "bawk"ing here, just trying to make an informed decision.

"I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA."

I love the boss lift, have had it on my truck for a few years and have no complaints. You can either buy UCAs now or later, but they really make a difference in alignment and it does provide for more travel up front then the stock. The downside is a little more maintenance with them, uniballs may require even more maintenance. For example, I have found I need to grease the bushings on my Camburg Bushings about every 8-10k to keep them quiet. The cheaper UCA's option are the SPC light racing, it'll give all the caster you need for the lowest cost, but at times they've had some qiuality issues. There are plenty of options but none are cheap, my front is lifted about 2.5" and I was so happy when I replaced my UCA's, drove a lot better.

Look around for links on the different UCA's options, there are several lengthy threads, new are a couple...

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/210010-285s-stock-trail-rims-uca-needed.html

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/153031-how-do-i-know-if-i-ucas-new-lift-my-5th-gen.html

 

[Alexadugs]

I love the boss lift, have had it on my truck for a few years and have no complaints. You can either buy UCAs now or later, but they really make a difference in alignment and it does provide for more travel up front then the stock. The downside is a little more maintenance with them, uniballs may require even more maintenance. For example, I have found I need to grease the bushings on my Camburg Bushings about every 8-10k to keep them quiet. The cheaper UCA's option are the SPC light racing, it'll give all the caster you need for the lowest cost, but at times they've had some qiuality issues. There are plenty of options but none are cheap, my front is lifted about 2.5" and I was so happy when I replaced my UCA's, drove a lot better.

Look around for links on the different UCA's options, there are several lengthy threads, new are a couple...

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/210010-285s-stock-trail-rims-uca-needed.html

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/153031-how-do-i-know-if-i-ucas-new-lift-my-5th-gen.html

Ok great, that actually helps a lot. I wasn't too sure on what extra maintenance or additional costs I would need to consider. The dealer who I plan to purchase my lift through had suggested Total Chaos UCA if I chose to go that route. I am in the process of researching the different options as we speak.

Thanks!

 

[Simpleman74]

Makes first forum post...asking to learn more about a modification to ensure I make the best decision for said 40k vehicle

...receives unhelpful and sarcastic reply.

No "bawk"ing here, just trying to make an informed decision.

"I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA."

READ STICKY

READ MOD WARNING

UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GOT SARCASTIC REPLY

GET THE UCAs

WELCOME TO THE FORUM

 

[Jhalko]

READ STICKY

READ MOD WARNING

UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GOT SARCASTIC REPLY

GET THE UCAs

WELCOME TO THE FORUM

What no points for them posting in an existing thread? Clearly they searched to find the Boss info.

But personally I love it when someone responds to sarcasm with some sarcasm, good stuff. :trophy:

 

[sroodtuo]

Hey everyone.

Im about to purchase my 2017 TRD Off Road (AKA trail edition) in the next month and I'm looking into the Boss Suspension. I am new to off roading and want to ease into it seeing as its a brand new vehicle which will also be my Daily Driver.

My intention is to put 285/70/17 with this lift, but my question is what is the necessity for someone like me to replace the Upper Control Arms? Would I be able to still have a great ride quality and performance with the stock UCA?

I see a lot of back and forth in regards to rubbing and strange noises, so I would like to learn more about the benifits or necessity of having a new one vs keeping the stock UCA.

Thanks in advance!

-Alexa

You say you want to ease into off-roading so leave it stock and ease into it. Don't make changes for the sake of making changes. Unless of course you like how it looks and have the money to burn. If anything, upgrade your tires and go have some fun. Many people on this forum have been to some pretty incredible places with a stock height 4Runner. Just sayin.