sschaefer3
New member
WOW I have been mis-quoted here.
1: Aftermarket control arms can be aligned, the exposed balls will fill with crud in areas with snow/salt and accelerate wear. I have never said aftermarket a-arms could not be aligned. I may have said they are most beneficial on a Pre-Runner not a 4X4 as the CV axles limit any added droop they could add. I may have also said that they are not necessary on a 4X4, as that is my belief, the stock a-arms work fine.
2: The person in SC with the issue I am looking you up and will give you a call, something is probably not installed correctly. Please call me if you have issues.
3: Drop Bracket, the reason I no longer make the part I invented is that "Jeff the Marmot" argued to the death in 2001 that the correct way to correct to do this is to raise the axle side not lower the frame side. When you lower the frame side you change the roll center of the vehicle (look it up on Pirate4x4, they explain it very well) and make the vehicle less stable. I am sure there is an army of you running around with drop brackets that have no issues and you will tell me how amazing your truck is, but it is immoral to sell something that you know produces a negative effect. The problem with the panhard bar is not it's length but the with the restrictive bushings Toyota used. They severely limit articulation. When Lil Skip came out with his gas tank skid he had to redesign it because he did not realize how much more articulation our kits provide. He has re-designed his product to work with our kits and I recommend him to every single customer now. When companies work together better products are made and everyone benefits. The gas tank drive shaft issue is 100% shocks length, it has nothing to do with the length of the panhard bar or where it is bolted. If the shock is too long the drive shaft hits the tank, too short you have limited movement like stock shocks. So you find the longest you can make the shocks for max articulation and not have the shaft hit the tank. This is all with a stock skid as a benchmark, if you go out and destroy your stock skid/tank and it moves then it will hit more and sooner.
4: The adjustable bar is for the free moving bushings. Heims are illegal on the street and wear out quickly. If you want to put your vehicle back to stock you can remove it and there is no welding required. Yes the best idea is to cut all the stock stuff off and build a real high articulation linked suspension. Who would not agree to that.
5: OME front shocks, Andy Pipken at the SE4RJ on slick rock at Tellico blew 2 CV from excess droop in front of a crown, I blew one CV from excesses droop on rocker knocker, Pritchett, Moab. If the front IFS goes down too far the CV binds and the center cage cracks, you get an extremely un-impressive break. A cage cracking is not like some guy on Pirate blowing up a birfield, it is simply that you bound the joint and it cracked and fell apart.
If you have any questions feel free to call me. Please don't believe the 3rd hand quotes from me. I have every intention to sell the beast parts I possibly can and treat people as I would like to be treated. If anyone has any issues with anything we sell, please call me and I will make it right.
Steve Schaefer
Sonoran Steel Fabrication
1: Aftermarket control arms can be aligned, the exposed balls will fill with crud in areas with snow/salt and accelerate wear. I have never said aftermarket a-arms could not be aligned. I may have said they are most beneficial on a Pre-Runner not a 4X4 as the CV axles limit any added droop they could add. I may have also said that they are not necessary on a 4X4, as that is my belief, the stock a-arms work fine.
2: The person in SC with the issue I am looking you up and will give you a call, something is probably not installed correctly. Please call me if you have issues.
3: Drop Bracket, the reason I no longer make the part I invented is that "Jeff the Marmot" argued to the death in 2001 that the correct way to correct to do this is to raise the axle side not lower the frame side. When you lower the frame side you change the roll center of the vehicle (look it up on Pirate4x4, they explain it very well) and make the vehicle less stable. I am sure there is an army of you running around with drop brackets that have no issues and you will tell me how amazing your truck is, but it is immoral to sell something that you know produces a negative effect. The problem with the panhard bar is not it's length but the with the restrictive bushings Toyota used. They severely limit articulation. When Lil Skip came out with his gas tank skid he had to redesign it because he did not realize how much more articulation our kits provide. He has re-designed his product to work with our kits and I recommend him to every single customer now. When companies work together better products are made and everyone benefits. The gas tank drive shaft issue is 100% shocks length, it has nothing to do with the length of the panhard bar or where it is bolted. If the shock is too long the drive shaft hits the tank, too short you have limited movement like stock shocks. So you find the longest you can make the shocks for max articulation and not have the shaft hit the tank. This is all with a stock skid as a benchmark, if you go out and destroy your stock skid/tank and it moves then it will hit more and sooner.
4: The adjustable bar is for the free moving bushings. Heims are illegal on the street and wear out quickly. If you want to put your vehicle back to stock you can remove it and there is no welding required. Yes the best idea is to cut all the stock stuff off and build a real high articulation linked suspension. Who would not agree to that.
5: OME front shocks, Andy Pipken at the SE4RJ on slick rock at Tellico blew 2 CV from excess droop in front of a crown, I blew one CV from excesses droop on rocker knocker, Pritchett, Moab. If the front IFS goes down too far the CV binds and the center cage cracks, you get an extremely un-impressive break. A cage cracking is not like some guy on Pirate blowing up a birfield, it is simply that you bound the joint and it cracked and fell apart.
If you have any questions feel free to call me. Please don't believe the 3rd hand quotes from me. I have every intention to sell the beast parts I possibly can and treat people as I would like to be treated. If anyone has any issues with anything we sell, please call me and I will make it right.
Steve Schaefer
Sonoran Steel Fabrication
