Trade in the '12 SR5 already?

bofa

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We picked up a '12 SR5 4WD earlier this year and love it. At the time we were planning to remain in Florida for at least a few more years so running around in 2WD is not a big deal and we can occasionally use the 4WD on the beaches. But, how quickly things change... we decided to move up our plans and are moving to Colorado next Summer. I knew I should have just gotten the Limited... :moping:

Anyway, I know the SR5 with part time 4WD and a little responsible driving is capable for the most part but the reality is my wife will be new to snow and driving on her own at times. Plus I plan to venture off-road more once we are out there, so it sounds like getting full time 4WD is probably a good idea.

I know these things hold their value pretty well... who has traded their 4runner in so soon after purchasing? Does this sound like a good idea or am I over-thinking this?
 
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Unless you really want some of the other options that come with the Limited, I would probably just keep what you have. Just make sure she knows how the 4wd works and make sure she uses it even during the minor snow events until she is comfortable driving in the winter conditions.
 
I've got an SR5 and it's fine in inclement weather. If you want/need four wheel drive you simply shift into 4Hi. If the Limited has "full time 4 wheel drive" that is not the same as "all wheel drive" like on Subarus. So, I guess that I'm not seeing the advantage that you seem to see in the Limited.
 
No need for full time 4wd just because you're moving to CO. Keep the SR5 and just put on some Blizak tires for winter.
 
The LTD is ALL wheel drive, until you place it into 4wd. Unless the wife is familiar with these types of systems, I think getting the LTD is a good idea. One can screw up a part time 4wd system by forgetting your in 4 wd and then drive the vehicle on dry pavement, making sharp corners etc. etc. If she is an "aware" driver, then your SR5 is good to go. But since you brought the issue up, I suspect.......be safe.
 
I grew up in the midwest most of my life. My general advice:

-The most important rule is to not go out in the snow, unless you really need to.
-The first snow fall of the season is the most dangerous because everyone is getting used to the snow again, they're still braking hard and taking corners fast. It's not the snow you need to worry about, it's the other drivers you need to watch out for.
-When stopping at a stop light or anywhere for that matter, allow enough space (like 1 car length) in front of you and behind you in case of someone sliding towards your from the rear or front.
-Take it slow so you don't cause an accident (from sliding and braking hard into an intersection) and also take it slow to look ahead and avoid those who are driving recklessly. Snow is even doable with a camry (I used to drive one) if you take it slow and if it's not real deep snow lol.
-If you want to give your wife a little more control with the snow, especially being her first snow winter, definitely get a designated set of snow tires, it'll give her better handling when she needs it, or at the very least a good AT tire. It does cost more, but hey, my philosophy is it's your wife, or her life. But still have her drive slow and cautiously, cocky/confident drivers usually end up in the ditch. I had been driving with the stock tires and have been fine, but then again, I have been driving in the snow every since I got my license, so it's no problem for me. I have some AT tires now, and can't wait to see the difference in the snow.

So my opinion is at the least, try some AT tires, or even better, snow tires, sit next to her during the first snow and see how "bad" she drives and give her pointers like above, and you should be golden.

I'll add more when I think of it.
 
No need for full time 4wd just because you're moving to CO. Keep the SR5 and just put on some Blizak tires for winter.

What GrantK said. Living up in the mountains here in Colorado I throw on my winter tires and I'm good to go - the vast majority of the time staying in 2WD. Occasionally I'll go in to 4WD but only when it is pretty nasty out there.

The Limited will provide some additional peace of mind I'm sure but if it was between an SR5 with snow tires and a Limited with AT (or even worse, stock) tires I would take the SR5 every day of the week. Remember, it's 4 Wheel Drive, not 4 Wheel Stop. :lookout:

Now if you had a Limited with snow tires . . .

Regardless, I'm willing to bet that it will be easier to sell a 4WD SR5 here in Colorado than in Florida so maybe you keep the SR5 for now - see how it works for you here and then make a decision?
 
One more thing - the other 'secret' of Colorado is that it doesn't snow down on the front range as much as people think. We have our fair share of snowstorms but with all of the sunshine that we get the roads clear quickly. Growing up in Denver we never had anything other than regular 2wd family cars and managed just fine (without snowtires too).

We used to joke that it only snowed during the Monday Night Bronco games - good publicity for the ski resorts. :)
 
Thanks for the input. I think the benefit of the center differential is pretty compelling, as well as the X-REAS. There are a few other creature comforts but those aren't really deciding factors.

If we keep the SR5, I'll look into the Blizzaks and keep an eye out for some wheels in the classifieds.

Jtraskell - what you mention is part of the concern. She is a cautious driver already so I'm sure she will heed the tips from whodat, but I have a feeling she will be more apt to leave it in 4WD at the slightest hint of winter weather. Hell, she used to leave the Xterra in 4WD sometimes on accident when going from just some minor offroad (maybe 50 yards) to pavement and continue on her way home.
 
What GrantK said. Living up in the mountains here in Colorado I throw on my winter tires and I'm good to go - the vast majority of the time staying in 2WD. Occasionally I'll go in to 4WD but only when it is pretty nasty out there.

The Limited will provide some additional peace of mind I'm sure but if it was between an SR5 with snow tires and a Limited with AT (or even worse, stock) tires I would take the SR5 every day of the week. Remember, it's 4 Wheel Drive, not 4 Wheel Stop. :lookout:

Now if you had a Limited with snow tires . . .

Regardless, I'm willing to bet that it will be easier to sell a 4WD SR5 here in Colorado than in Florida so maybe you keep the SR5 for now - see how it works for you here and then make a decision?

Good to know, thank you.
 
One more thing - the other 'secret' of Colorado is that it doesn't snow down on the front range as much as people think. We have our fair share of snowstorms but with all of the sunshine that we get the roads clear quickly. Growing up in Denver we never had anything other than regular 2wd family cars and managed just fine (without snowtires too).

We used to joke that it only snowed during the Monday Night Bronco games - good publicity for the ski resorts. :)

Hah - that is true. I worked in Denver for a while and did some occasional commuting to Broomfield and the weather wasn't really that bad. The roads always seemed well maintained and the sunny weather really helped clear things up.

The only time it got bad was the day before I left to drive from Denver to Birmingham, and that was that nasty Blizzard shut down most Kansas. I made it home in a Jeep Patriot (don't ask...) just fine, despite the heater blower dying.
 
One more thing - the other 'secret' of Colorado is that it doesn't snow down on the front range as much as people think. We have our fair share of snowstorms but with all of the sunshine that we get the roads clear quickly. Growing up in Denver we never had anything other than regular 2wd family cars and managed just fine (without snowtires too).

We used to joke that it only snowed during the Monday Night Bronco games - good publicity for the ski resorts. :)

I did not know that, good to know!

Thanks for the input. I think the benefit of the center differential is pretty compelling, as well as the X-REAS. There are a few other creature comforts but those aren't really deciding factors.

If we keep the SR5, I'll look into the Blizzaks and keep an eye out for some wheels in the classifieds.

Jtraskell - what you mention is part of the concern. She is a cautious driver already so I'm sure she will heed the tips from whodat, but I have a feeling she will be more apt to leave it in 4WD at the slightest hint of winter weather. Hell, she used to leave the Xterra in 4WD sometimes on accident when going from just some minor offroad (maybe 50 yards) to pavement and continue on her way home.

I wish we had some good info on this topic, leaving part-time 4wd on when your on dry pavement. Long story short, I left the 4wd on driving from texas to iowa, hauling a u-haul, because the crosswinds were making me feel uncomfortable and with the 4wd on I felt like I had more control (don't ask me why I thought of this, maybe it's from the mentality of 4wd in snow equals better control versus rwd?), and my 4R is still going strong, only time will tell when something goes wrong. But as of right now, almost 2 years later after that drive, nothing wrong, no noise, nothing, the next morning I'll probably hear something lol After seeing a topic about this on thie site, I read up more on not driving 4wd on dry roads with part-time systems and understand why it's bad, but honestly, am I the exception?

Now when I was making the drive from TX to IA, the only time I heard something bad was when I had the steering wheel fully locked to turn at the gas station, and it when "clunk clunk clunk" and I felt the wheel skipping (I think that's what they mean by the "gears binding"), but I stopped turning and straightened out the wheel a bit and the noise and wheel skip stopped. I used to drive my dad's T100 and did the same thing to it (I was really clueless about trucks and 4wd systems, a little more knowledgeable, but still clueless lol), and his truck is still going strong, nothing needed to be replaced yet.

From my experience, driving 4wd on dry roads have been ok, but almost everyone I talked to/read online says to NEVER do it. I'm a bit confused, but I will err on the side of caution and just not do it.
 
A thing to add too, if you're living in a place that has a lot of snow, I'm pretty sure they have a snow removal system that is set up to plow the streets pretty efficiently, mostly for in the town, main streets, and probably highway/interstate. I'm sure the other guys in CO will chime in, if not already, while I'm typing this. So you just have to worry about getting out of your driveway :)

When I was in Fort Worth TX, they had a snow/ice storm about 2 years ago, and nothing was really done for the whole day, they recommended people to stay home. I still went to work with the stock tires, driving 10mph though lol Versus in Iowa, the first sign of snow you have snow plows on the street plowing and salting the roads.
 
When we had our snowstorm/icestorm (2.5 inches of solid ice on the pavement, I busted my butt a few times walking) in Atlanta (2010) I had my 03 Highlander 4 cylinder FWD. Did fine, only spun out once and that was because some idiot in a Accord Coupe came out in front of me. I ran off the road and it wasn't pretty (he stopped and I cussed him out, got back in and left). Now it wasn't rwd but it did fine, but most of the trucks here are 2wd and they constantly spun out and lost traction, coming to a standstill. I want another icestorm like that, but then again I don't because I'm V8 2WD and I don't have traction control because my yaw rate sensor is screwed up. Also, take the tips from "whodat".
 
You'll be fine. Your biggest issue will be tires. Recommend Blizzak DMV-1 or studs. Put these on separate rims and switch out in Fall and Spring. Pure winter tires wear out super fast in driving in summer.

But, if this was my Wife's vehicle I'd get Bluetooth for her first (something hands free for phone)... And Tires are a must.
 
Discussed with the wife this weekend.... she prefers we get the Ltd, but wants to wait until we get out there. I picked a winner! :trophy:
 

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