Traded 4Runner for Tacoma

caper said:
lots actually , obviously you have no experience what constant salt spray splashing on callipers (especially rear ones) do to them . . Getting advise from someone who lives in Texas on what salt does to a vehicle is quite humorous .

this is me putting my winter rims on my rig in my shop , don't work on cars much nope ... don’t have a clue what i’m talking about

winter tires are for snow and steel rims are for the “SALT “ so ya don’t ruin yer alloy ones incase ya wern’t sure ,


all in good humor
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At my age, it sure would be nice to have this for oil changes!
 
BigCountryT4R said:
Good for you, but my comment as well as others still stands. Drums have more issues with salt and rust than the disc brakes do or I wouldn't have had to deal with it on my Camry every year or so after driving in the snow/ice that we do get every year in North Texas. And yes, we get salt/gravel on the roads all the time when that happens.
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We will have to agree to disagree , i'm in the most salt infested area in North America , house is 30 meters from ocean and they lay salt for 6 months a year on roads here and I mean a lot of salt . My experience shows me there are less issues with drum brakes , if you put new calipers on a car here and never touched them ( 99% of people don't touch them ) to clean and lube them they would not be working in 2 years or less , ive changed out hundreds of em .

The rust gets under the stainless steel pad sliders and pinches the pads and in turn seizes the pistons

The pistons sometimes just seize on their own

slide pins seize and burn off one pad .

or a combination of all of these together .

I got a 98 cummins with original rear drums and shoes 300k km ,changed wheel cylinders out 2 times that's all I ever done to rear brakes and they still work great , drums still come off easy and that thing seen salt trust me


Sure if I lived in Arizona , Flordia etc .... I would prefer discs in rear also ,
 
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caper said:
slide pins seize and burn off one pad .
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Just had experience with this, though the pads weren't shot. I replaced all my brakes and I could not get the slide pins out of the fronts. Neither on both sides moved. Started by trying to air hammer them, after they've been soaking overnight in penetrating oil. Then had to cut them into two pieces. Then some more with the air hammer/chisel and finally got them out.
 
Actually just started considering trading my 2019 TRD Pro 4runner for a 2020 TRD Pro Tacoma Manual. Love the looks, utility and the manual transmission, Power Seat and headlights are icing.
 
caper said:
My other toyota i know nothing about , in-fact I,ve owned toyotas and been working on em for 25 years and i can’t gain any experience working on them , and yes the drum brakes on this work great , thanks
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My FJ60 stopped like shit because of the rear drums, which probably worked like 50% of the time when they weren't seized up dragging my mpg's below 8.

Next thing you'll tell me that the carbureted 2F engine that overheats and doesn't like being tilted on trails is better than the VVT-i.
 
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You got what you wanted and that's all that really matters. I wanted a Tacoma for a while and became a member on the forum. Got alot of info there, but when I went to the dealership and test drove one, I seen the 4runner wasn't much of a price difference, so I test drove one of them too. The 4runner is what I decided on. Alot of those Tacoma guys on the forum gave me a hard time too, but I didn't care, haha.
 
drewsro said:
Just had experience with this, though the pads weren't shot. I replaced all my brakes and I could not get the slide pins out of the fronts. Neither on both sides moved. Started by trying to air hammer them, after they've been soaking overnight in penetrating oil. Then had to cut them into two pieces. Then some more with the air hammer/chisel and finally got them out.
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I went through the same thing. Ended up just replacing both front calipers since they had 130k on them anyway.
 
Comes to 4Runner board to tout getting rid of his 4Runner for a Tacoma. Acts shocked and butthurt when he doesn’t get the launching of the Titatnic level reception and red carpet. Noice.
 
This is a strange thread. I never thought I'd hear someone saying drum brakes are better in 2020.

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Congratulations on your new ride! Before buying my 4Runner I was shopping around between the 4runner and Tacoma. Both rigs are really nice! Enjoy your new ride!
 
I like the looks of the new Tacoma. Test drove Tacoma back to back with 4Runner. Tacoma felt more sluggish and transmission didn’t shift smoothly. I went with the 4Runner.
Went with my brother who wanted a truck. He liked the new Tacoma and we test drove the Tacoma back to back with Tundra. Both trucks but different platforms I know. After pricing out both, LTD 4WD, there was only $4800 difference. He bought a Tundra.

Tacoma has a large and loyal fan base but I think the current Tacoma is under powered and over priced.
 
I was set on buying a 2020 Tacoma. Wanted a truck and did not feel the need for another SUV because we already have a Honda Pilot. Test drove the Tacoma several times, then made the mistake of taking a 4runner on a test drive...ended up buying 2020 TRD ORP. Driving wise, 4Runner was better in every way...
But to be honest, if I had ended up with a Tacoma, I'd have loved it too.
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