At one time we looked into Subaru. Liked Eyesight. Low dependability and CVT transmission, no thanks. They are popular in Seattle.
I've driven the newer Outbacks and Foresters and while they were nice I definitely didn't like either more than the 4Runner. Honestly doesn't feel like a good comparison, they're more in the Highlander category.
CVT I agree on, we have a Crosstrek as well and it's the part I like the least. Don't mind the lack of shifting but it's super late and goes from nothing to everything after a good delay. But low dependability? Subarus are some of the longest running vehicles on the road. That one I don't get.
They are absolutely not the longest running vehicle on the road. While many aspects of the cars are durable the engines are the worst. I have been into Subaru STi and forrester's since 2004. The STi after 2006 has to be the least durable engine on the road. Also the forrester's 2.5.
Just last night driving through the local dealership another STi wagon was having engine out service.
They have been changing the engines lately but a few years ago the 2.0 was pretty bad as well. Two cylinder heads and gaskets not to mention timing belts are such stupid features. Mitsubishi and Toyota have timing belts but they are much easier to service. My 2003 galant will outlast 10 subaru's and I take it down the gnarliest roads
I think the foresters are remarkably capable. I have an ongoing argument on Pirate regarding whether a Forester is more capable than a Mahindra Roxor. I have no doubt whatsoever that a Forester will absolutely embarrass a Roxor in the dirt. Roxors are open differentials on both ends. Shouldn't even be close. AND the kicker is that a forester is CHEAPER!! brand new than the Roxor. I'm still waiting for a roxor to show up as a trade in at my friend's powersports shop so we can take it out and compare. I'll probably rent a forester for a day. I'll be sure to video tape it.
I Forester is really no match for a 4Runner in the extreme, but it's pretty solidly in Jeep GC territory.
I'm really curious to see how the new RAV4 does. They've added MTS/ATRAC to the new Rav as a standard feature. Supposedly the center diff has a full lock dog clutch so you can actually get damn near the same drive performance as the non TRD model 4Runners. But of course a lot less durable and less ground clearance. With some skid plates and minor suspension mods you could have a reasonably capable overlander that's perfectly at home on all the "overland" trails and gets 30+mpg.