TRD Pro parts

Glad you got your kit, didn't think you would have any issue from the website!
Did it come fully assembled or not?

On the other hand.......
I can't see where it would take a shop any more than 3 hrs to R&R plus alignment.
You may need to talk to the service manager and explain to him what the suspension is coming on and that is will fit without issue on your truck.

Fully assembled, but one of front perches is set on first level, the other is set on the second level...kind of weird.

Also, I spoke to service mgr who referred to his parts dept and install guys on what I sent him...they were scratching their heads and said this kit wasn't in their systems yet so they weren't able to quote me an install price, so they winged it saying it would be 4&1/2 hrs plus alignment cost. That's why I don't have any confidence in them. I'm going back for rebalancing of my new tires, they installed. I had asked them to road force balance them in the first place...so who knows what they actually did. Grrrrrrrrr.... Feels like the start of an all to common dysfunctional relationship.
 
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Fully assembled, but one of front perches is set on first level, the other is set on the second level...kind of weird.

Also, I spoke to service mgr who referred to his parts dept and install guys on what I sent him...they were scratching their heads and said this kit wasn't in their systems yet so they weren't able to quote me an install price, so they winged it saying it would be 4&1/2 hrs plus alignment cost. That's why I don't have any confidence in them. I'm going back for rebalancing of my new tires, they installed. I had asked them to road force balance them in the first place...so who knows what they actually did. Grrrrrrrrr.... Feels like the start of an all to common dysfunctional relationship.

The location of perch placement is to allow/correct the drivers side lean......
Being that they are fully assembled, I would presume the install would be a lot easier and less time on the clock because there is no disassembly/assembly of your OEM parts for the install!
They should have less time than say replacing both front coilover struts because there is no spring compressing to be done....all that takes more time IMHO!
I would be pointing these things out to them!
As far as the rear shocks, you may be able to do those your self....pretty direct stuff there....
Here is a pic of the setup on a new TRDPro 4Runner rear shock drivers side:
 

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I'm not a sponsor here or anything (although I'd definitely be willing if the forum mods are looking for someone), just wanted to say I'm not some random guy stealing people's hard earned money!

Hey Joe (or anyone else) - What's the difference between the TRD Pro suspension and normal 5100s set on Eibach Springs? Outside of the rear remote reservoir its not obvious you're getting much extra for the money.

Are they valved (tuned) differently than your off the shelf 5100s? Are the front springs not available directly from Eibach?

I want this setup but the cost seems steep relative to other 5100/Eibach setups, and those other setups include rear coil lift springs. I can't justify the extra cost for "just" the remote reservoir and TRD badging.

Am I missing something?

Thanks all!

<Apologies if this topic has been discussed already. I searched but didnt find a clear explanation -- can't hurt to have it answered in multiple places.>
 
Hey Joe (or anyone else) - What's the difference between the TRD Pro suspension and normal 5100s set on Eibach Springs? Outside of the rear remote reservoir its not obvious you're getting much extra for the money.

Are they valved (tuned) differently than your off the shelf 5100s? Are the front springs not available directly from Eibach?

I want this setup but the cost seems steep relative to other 5100/Eibach setups, and those other setups include rear coil lift springs. I can't justify the extra cost for "just" the remote reservoir and TRD badging.

Am I missing something?

Thanks all!

<Apologies if this topic has been discussed already. I searched but didnt find a clear explanation -- can't hurt to have it answered in multiple places.>

Using Google often finds stuff in this forum that the regular search will not.


It only took about 10 seconds for me to find this info (in this same thread), so here is part of your questions answered....you will need to get info on the valving and other dimensions for the 5100's...
The part #'s for the springs are in this forum if not in this thread, so just look around abit.....

High Performance TRD Suspension System
Professionally-tuned by TRD suspension engineers for high performance to Toyota’s exacting standards for ride quality and durability, both front and rear suspensions feature larger Bilstein® monotube shocks that hold additional shock fluid, as well as larger digressive Bilstein® pistons (60 mm front/46 mm rear, versus 32 mm original equipment front/rear) that gave engineers greater surface area for tuning valving profiles. The front and rear original equipment sway bars, end links, and bump stops are retained.

Front suspension details: TRD-tuned 2.5-inch Bilstein® 5100-series independent coil-over-shock type suspension, TRD-tuned Eibach® springs, and factory stabilizer bar, end links and bump stops.
TRD-tuned Eibach® springs with decreased spring rates (softer-than-stock) improve ride quality over harsh terrain and gives a 1-inch higher ride height, for a level front to back appearance that gives better front ground clearance when out on the trail off-highway.
Larger 2.5-inch shocks (similar in size to those used on heavy-duty industrial vehicles) with digressive valving are matched to the softer spring rate for enhanced overall characteristics operating off-highway in the dirt. Larger, more rigid 18mm shock shafts add component strength (original equipment shafts are 12mm).
The new shocks have also been engineered with a longer-stroke, to give an additional 1-inch of extended, or “down”, wheel travel for enhanced articulation capabilities when off-roading.
The larger 2.5-inch shocks houses a greater oil capacity than stock equipment; the increased amount of oil means the shocks can better dissipate heat and avoid cavitation created from working the shocks hard off-
road. This results in a predictable suspension that consistently works over longer periods of time in some of the most extreme situations and environments.

Rear suspension details: TRD-tuned 2.0-inch Bilstein® 5100-series shocks with remote reservoirs, and factory rear coil springs, stabilizer bar, end links, and bump stops.
The enhanced rear suspension features larger-than-stock 2.0-inch shocks with remote-mounted external reservoirs that also house a greater-than-stock shock oil capacity, equivalent to that of a larger 2.5-inch shock, but inside of a more compact package. The increased amount of oil means that the shocks can better dissipate heat to help avoid cavitation created from working the shocks hard off-road. This results in consistent, predictable suspension operation that keeps on working as designed in the most extreme situations and environments.
The upgraded Bilstein® rear shocks use larger 46 mm pistons with more valving surface area, an improvement over the 32 mm original equipment pistons.
The shocks have also been engineered to provide an additional 1-inch of extended or “down” wheel travel for enhanced articulation capabilities when off-roading.
 
Using Google often finds stuff in this forum that the regular search will not.


It only took about 10 seconds for me to find this info (in this same thread), so here is part of your questions answered....you will need to get info on the valving and other dimensions for the 5100's...
The part #'s for the springs are in this forum if not in this thread, so just look around abit.....

High Performance TRD Suspension System
Professionally-tuned by TRD suspension engineers for high performance to Toyota’s exacting standards for ride quality and durability, both front and rear suspensions feature larger Bilstein® monotube shocks that hold additional shock fluid, as well as larger digressive Bilstein® pistons (60 mm front/46 mm rear, versus 32 mm original equipment

Thanks for the reply. I read that post too but I was still confused. Actually, it was that specific link that confused me. After doing more digging I think I've figured it out...

They reference 60mm front shocks and Bilstein 5100s, but the standard 5100s are only 46mm shocks. The front shocks are actually the new BTS line, which aren't yet listed on Bilstein's site (for the 4runner). That may have been obvious to everyone else but it threw me off. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/179183-bilstein-60mm-bts-system.html

This site has the (non-TRD) Bilstein BTS shocks/springs listed for only $356:

BILSTEIN 60mm BTS System Suspension Kit; Bilstein Tuned Suspension TOYOTA FJ CRUISER

If that price is correct, I could combine them with the standard 5100s in the rear and have a similar setup for around $500. Granted, this kit does not include Eibach springs. I also wouldn't have remote reservoir shocks in the rear, but I could still upgrade to these parts for less than half the cost of the TRD kit.

Hard to justify paying double unless they put a lot of work into tuning those shocks. I guess that's the question I was really asking but its probably impossible to answer unless you compared the internals of both versions.
 
Using Google often finds stuff in this forum that the regular search will not.


It only took about 10 seconds for me to find this info (in this same thread), so here is part of your questions answered....you will need to get info on the valving and other dimensions for the 5100's...
The part #'s for the springs are in this forum if not in this thread, so just look around abit.....

High Performance TRD Suspension System
Professionally-tuned by TRD suspension engineers for high performance to Toyota’s exacting standards for ride quality and durability, both front and rear suspensions feature larger Bilstein® monotube shocks that hold additional shock fluid, as well as larger digressive Bilstein® pistons (60 mm front/46 mm rear, versus 32 mm original equipment

Thanks for the reply. I read that post too but I was still confused. Actually, it was that specific link that confused me. After doing more digging I think I've figured it out...

They reference 60mm front shocks and Bilstein 5100s, but the standard 5100s are only 46mm shocks. The front shocks are actually the new BTS line, which aren't yet listed on Bilstein's site (for the 4runner). That may have been obvious to everyone else but it threw me off. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/179183-bilstein-60mm-bts-system.html

This site has the (non-TRD) Bilstein BTS shocks/springs listed for only $356:

BILSTEIN 60mm BTS System Suspension Kit; Bilstein Tuned Suspension TOYOTA FJ CRUISER

If that price is correct, I could combine them with the standard 5100s in the rear and have a similar setup for around $500. Granted, this kit does not include Eibach springs. I also wouldn't have remote reservoir shocks in the rear, but I could still upgrade to these parts for less than half the cost of the TRD kit.

Hard to justify paying double unless they put a lot of work into tuning those shocks. I guess that's the question I was really asking but its probably impossible to answer unless you compared the internals of both versions.

I think your pricing is off as well as the coils.

Here is some info posted further down in the first link you supplied.
(If the info Bilstein quoted me is 100% correct)

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/1825735-post31.html
 
Would you guys get the TRD Pro Suspension or an Icon setup?

I want something that gives me a mild lift and also allows for very comfortable ride (with the occasional speed hump at speed without upsetting the truck so much haha)
 
I just saw this. Glad your on here.

Any idea if and when you will offer the 4Runner TRD PRO grill?

Sorry, just checked this thread again! It will be available VERY soon. There are 4 total part numbers involved but it looks like only 2 are needed to do the swap. I'm trying to confirm this then it will be listed up on the site. The thing is crazy expensive though!
 
These are the only two part numbers you need
Toyota Garnish - PZ323-35056
Grille Radiator Upper - PZ327-35053
They are already available. You can look at my photo album to see the conversion.
 
TRD Pro trim install

So last week I ordered the TRD Pro front grille pieces as well as the front/rear bumper garnish pieces, and just found out you need holes in your bumper to attach the bumper pieces.... Has anyone successfully installed the bumper pieces on an SR5?

Please/thanks in advance!!
 
So last week I ordered the TRD Pro front grille pieces as well as the front/rear bumper garnish pieces, and just found out you need holes in your bumper to attach the bumper pieces.... Has anyone successfully installed the bumper pieces on an SR5?

Please/thanks in advance!!

Do you actually need that lower piece installed to do the rest of the mod?
Or, are you wanting to place the lower part on anyway?
 
I can live with just the Pro grille which sounds like it should be fairly easy to install, I just really like the look of the Pro & Trail bumper pieces. It sucks the bumper trim requires so many holes/slants in what look to be precise locations!

The grille parts will be here tomorrow, so gonna get it on after work! I'll just cancel the bumper pieces, as the last thing I want is loose/crooked trim.

I would love to know if another SR5 has completed/there's another way!
 
Installed the TRD grille last night and threw on the radiator cap while I had that damn radiator cover off, and added the oil cap as well. I'm really diggin' the look of it on my silver, looks totally different!
I also threw on some AVS window shades, just forgot to snap a pic of all that stuff; I'll take a few in the morning.

Called my dealership this afternoon and spoke with the manager of the body shop concerning the TRD bumper trim. He wasn't sure if they can do it, but told me to bring it by Monday so his best guy can see if it's something he can do.
My buddy told me the place that did some cuttin' on his F350 could do it, so I've still got some hope for my SR5 PRO lol
 

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Installed the TRD grille last night and threw on the radiator cap while I had that damn radiator cover off, and added the oil cap as well. I'm really diggin' the look of it on my silver, looks totally different! &#55357;&#56846;
I also threw on some AVS window shades, just forgot to snap a pic of all that stuff; I'll take a few in the morning.

Called my dealership this afternoon and spoke with the manager of the body shop concerning the TRD bumper trim. He wasn't sure if they can do it, but told me to bring it by Monday so his best guy can see if it's something he can do.
My buddy told me the place that did some cuttin' on his F350 could do it, so I've still got some hope for my SR5 PRO lol

Why don't you just do it yourself? Just mark the holes with the trim piece and take a dremel to it. Even if the holes don't look great they'll be covered up anyways. Hardest part would be taking the front bumper off but even that I'm sure isn't that difficult.
 
Anybody have a seat of the pants comparison between the SR5 and the SR5/TRD Pro suspension conversion? I'm looking to reduce the amount of "dive" but don't want an even softer ride than what comes stock. I keep reading adjectives like "squishy" and "softer" but it would seem with the Bilsteins the conversion would be less "soft" than stock. If you've done it, your voice speaks the loudest!

2/28: Gonna answer this one my self...bought the TRD pro kit off ebay, It came with everything but instructions which I downloaded from TIS after a $15 subscription. Got the fronts on today and it brought the front up about an inch and...no nose dive on level streets. Seems to track better and feels a bit firmer without being harsh. I'll do the rears tomorrow if I'm not too sore; I'm old and fat and this was not the best time I've had in the garage.

Tips: The Toyota instructions are pretty complete. I don't have a lift so I'm using a floor jack which reduces the amount of room you have to play with. The instructions said to remove the front skid plate. I was too smart for that and made the project longer than it should have been because I couldn't reach stuff. Take the skid plate off; don't be me. Air tools made this faster, regular hand tools will do it though. The back bolt on the shock tower was a pain to torque correctly but I'm taking it in to have the alignment checked and all the front end bolts torqued to spec. Overall, I'm pleased with the ride and very much like that this is a Toyota part.

3/1: Installed the rears today which was uneventful. The absence of a lift was a problem due to the significant amount of travel in the shocks, especially the TRDs. I wound up using several blocks on the floor jack to get the wheels up high enough to get the tires back on. Instructions for the rears are pretty good though there was some difference between the parts provided and those pictured. In addition to the supplied parts, you'll need some blue locktite for the reservoir mounts. Everything is well made EXCEPT the bottom mounting hook for attaching the reservoirs to the frame. It uses a nylock nut and is made of low grade steel. Very easy to over tighten. Be careful with this part as it is not something you can zip off to the hardware store for. The level stance achieved with just the fronts disappeared when I installed the rears and returned to basically the factory rake.

Overall, I'm pleased with this though I'm not sure how much the rear reservoirs will add to the capabilities. The difference between the stock set up and the TRD is quite noticeable. Ruts and holes have less impact and the handling seems more precise with less roll. I haven't noticed any change in alignment but will have this verified next week. The kit was complete except for the lack of instructions. If you have a reasonably well equipped garage you should be OK to do this on your own and save the $800 my dealer wanted to put these on. I'm not sold on the reservoirs and think that regular Bilstein shocks would have been just as good. Time will tell and I'm looking forward to seriously testing this out once the snow melts.
 

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The location of perch placement is to allow/correct the drivers side lean......
Being that they are fully assembled, I would presume the install would be a lot easier and less time on the clock because there is no disassembly/assembly of your OEM parts for the install!
They should have less time than say replacing both front coilover struts because there is no spring compressing to be done....all that takes more time IMHO!
I would be pointing these things out to them!
As far as the rear shocks, you may be able to do those your self....pretty direct stuff there....
Here is a pic of the setup on a new TRDPro 4Runner rear shock drivers side:

Finally found a dealership to do the install for a reasonable cost. They only charged me $399.00 for complete install and wheel alignment. They did it in about two and a half hours.
The SUV no longer has a raked profile like before, sits more level, also the nose dive has been eliminated. The ride is more controlled but not jarring, it seems like a more refined ride, not so busy anymore... I'm loving it. Rear is sitting higher than before and the front is also sitting higher but I'm just waiting for the suspension to settle to get actual lift results. It feels like it's sitting higher when driving it. Overall I am very pleased with this suspension. On a side note; no clunking from my trd pro suspension yet so that's good news too.

Update: I am now experiencing the clunk... dealership able to duplicate and is troubleshooting the issue...more once I get some progress.
 
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Ok,I have a dumb question but I'm a newbie.
Yes, I have searched and I have read this whole thread.

Here it goes.
I have a new Trail 2015.
This TRD PRO suspension kit mentioned in this thread: are these the exact parts that come on an actual TRD PRO? Same model bilstein and springs?
If I install this kit on my Teail edition, will I in fact have an identical suspension to the TRD PRO from the dealer?
I know some will slam me for this but I am looking to see if this is the exact kit that the TRD PRO has.
I'm somewhat impressed at the prices. I assumed they would be outrageous. The grill kit is outrageous, but the important parts aren't.
Even the TRD PRO rims are not over the top expensive.
 

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