Tundra TRD springs with Bilstein HDs
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The4kbeast
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Damn fine thread, thanks for asking the question.
I have Bilstein 5100 front shocks and have run both Tundra TRD (bottom, or 1st perch) and 4Runner (top, or 5th perch)... be sure to think through what your build plan is before buying anything. I went the Tundra could route and did LR UCAs because of the contact at full droop. I personally wouldn't do Tundras without an upper arm planned.
You know, if I was planning bumpers it may be ideal to use the all Tundra setup. On my stock bumperred rig it rides overly harsh; especially if you use load range D or E tires. I disconnected both f & r sway bars to compensate for the insane spring rate. To get the valving to open up I really had to hit stuff hard. I may be getting old, but I wouldn't romp that hard without a cage and some beefier front components. In sharp or steady-state street corners the valving opens up, but it doesn't seem to when hitting small bumps. After trying both thick-coiled TRD Tundra springs and 4Runner springs, I can say lighter spring rate with sway bars suit the 4Runner chassis. But it is mainly because it seems to let the valving open up more on the Tundras 5100s. Grr.
I've ridden shotgun with a guy that has Taco front 5100s and a stock 97 4R springs on the 3rd perch (top) and it is pretty amazing slamming around. Well dampened enough to take washboard and keep up with some crazier built trucks. The ride may be rougher inside than Icons (don't shoot me they are on TOTALLY different levels), but it handles basic off roading fine. It could use a little more responsive compression dampening for my taste but probably your best solution. Seriously. Stick with the basics unless you really want to work fine tuning it.
Now I am intrigued by the Taco HD/Tundra strut combination. Wonder if the shock would fade quicker with the heavier spring rate? Can't remember if Tacoma TRD springs result in a lift, but I'd like to experiment with the spring rates in that setup, too. Was going to watch for some free/cheap Taco TRD springs and try it, depending on paint code.
Sanoransteel: Hoping to see you at SEMA this year. Would be good to meet you in person.
I have Bilstein 5100 front shocks and have run both Tundra TRD (bottom, or 1st perch) and 4Runner (top, or 5th perch)... be sure to think through what your build plan is before buying anything. I went the Tundra could route and did LR UCAs because of the contact at full droop. I personally wouldn't do Tundras without an upper arm planned.
You know, if I was planning bumpers it may be ideal to use the all Tundra setup. On my stock bumperred rig it rides overly harsh; especially if you use load range D or E tires. I disconnected both f & r sway bars to compensate for the insane spring rate. To get the valving to open up I really had to hit stuff hard. I may be getting old, but I wouldn't romp that hard without a cage and some beefier front components. In sharp or steady-state street corners the valving opens up, but it doesn't seem to when hitting small bumps. After trying both thick-coiled TRD Tundra springs and 4Runner springs, I can say lighter spring rate with sway bars suit the 4Runner chassis. But it is mainly because it seems to let the valving open up more on the Tundras 5100s. Grr.
I've ridden shotgun with a guy that has Taco front 5100s and a stock 97 4R springs on the 3rd perch (top) and it is pretty amazing slamming around. Well dampened enough to take washboard and keep up with some crazier built trucks. The ride may be rougher inside than Icons (don't shoot me they are on TOTALLY different levels), but it handles basic off roading fine. It could use a little more responsive compression dampening for my taste but probably your best solution. Seriously. Stick with the basics unless you really want to work fine tuning it.
Now I am intrigued by the Taco HD/Tundra strut combination. Wonder if the shock would fade quicker with the heavier spring rate? Can't remember if Tacoma TRD springs result in a lift, but I'd like to experiment with the spring rates in that setup, too. Was going to watch for some free/cheap Taco TRD springs and try it, depending on paint code.
Sanoransteel: Hoping to see you at SEMA this year. Would be good to meet you in person.
BillIam
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i have read of some people talking about a progressive tacoma spring, any idea's? the taco guys seem to recommend the "sport" springs over the trd factory offerings for ride comfort, im not entirely sure just loooking to gain some more information, im looking for daily driving ride comfort with +1-2" over my stock 2000 sr5 stuff (thinking about taco 5100's and 99 talls for the front) also what do you run for rear springs? thanks! :blah:
ar1five
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I just installed(yesterday) tundra struts and tundra bils. They are set on the third notch. I have gone over several speed bumps and at pretty decent speed and have yet to hear or feel anything. I love it. The ride height is perfect for the 890s.
My front sway is disconnected for now
My front sway is disconnected for now
nodixe
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Northwest off road fab has progressive tacoma & tundra springs on their site but has a generic description and no price listed. Plus I've heard rumors of poor customer service.
Since I am only looking for small 1-2 inch lift (need about 1in clearance) and I'm set on a progressive spring the tundra trd coils w/4r shocks of some sort is what I am researching....maybe get a coilover kit and swap eibachs for the trd coils...maybe not lol
Since I am only looking for small 1-2 inch lift (need about 1in clearance) and I'm set on a progressive spring the tundra trd coils w/4r shocks of some sort is what I am researching....maybe get a coilover kit and swap eibachs for the trd coils...maybe not lol
The4kbeast
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Fronts: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...load-harshenss-explanation-3.html#post1594676
Rears: tougher. Stock truck?
- Favorite is 99 with ~1" spacer. With 4 people and kid I was on my bump stops, though.
- Next favorite is OME 901. Progressive nature means they are semi-soft unloaded and not on my stops in a max occupancy situation. The quick ramp up into higher spring rates makes them feel like they have a tendency to donkey kick on the rough stuff. They're short unloaded length means I wouldn't recommend with a long shock.
- 890? My shocks are too firm to run them. This may be the long term solution once the other kid arrives. I started with these and went back to 901, to 99.
Man I wish Sway-a-way or ToyTech (or Eibach) designed a desert spring for the 3rd gen with softer spring rates. Everything longer is designed for heavy trucks so rides like crap unless you run a higher payload. Oh well...
